
Die eerste minister van Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu sal nie die gedenkdiens vir Mandela bywoon nie.
Sy kantoor sê dit is te duur om na Suid-Afrika te reis.
Netanyahu het aanvanklik die Suid-Afrikaanse owerhede laat weet dat hy die diens sou bywoon, maar het sy planne gekanselleer weens die hoë kostes.
Sy vervoer- en veiligheidkostes sou na raming sowat twintig miljoen rand beloop het omdat dit op kort kennisgewing sou plaasvind.
Die minister van Internasionale Betrekkinge, Maite Nkoana-Mashanbane sê die regering het bevestiging ontvang dat 53 staatshoofde en oudpresidente die staatsbegrafnis Sondag sal bywoon.
Volgens die minister in die presidensie, Collins Chabane, is die hoë lui besig om voorbereidings te tref om na Suid-Afrika te kom.
Dertien staatshoofde uit Afrika het bevestig dat hulle die diens sal bywoon. Senior leiers van die Verenigde Nasies, die Europese Kommissie en die Afrika Unie word ook verwag.
Brasilië se president, Dilma Rousseff, sal ook die begrafnis bywoon.
President Barack Obama van die VSA en sy vrou Michelle, saam met drie voormalige presidente sal binnekort in Suid-Afrika aanland vir die geleentheid.

Ons sal ook nie kan gaan nie, ons het werk om te doen: vleisbraai.
Ek braai al sedert die 6de.
stadig Trip, dit moet lank hou en daar is n droogte in Noordwes, vleis raak skaars. een tjoppie op n slag
Ja en jy hoor die beeste is besig om pad te vat uit GP!!
Seker Qunu, na die voorvaders toe. Wonder of die zamalek lorries al oppad is:)
nee, hulle wag vir e-tolli skyfies
Gister het ons so oordadig tjops op die strand gebraai dat ons gisteraand EN vanoggend nog ge-eet het daar aan, se my
ronnekoppie vir my vanoggend – agnee oumaaa – tog nie alweer tjops nie – Dit terwyl die vet gister van sy bekkie afgeloop soos hy weggele het aan die tjops.
Trek my asem in om hom tereg te wys – se hy vir my jajaja ouma ek weeeeeet daar is mense wat nie kos het nie – ek sal dit tog maar vir vrede eet.
wha ha ha ha kostelik, gee hom nog n tjop..
Jy praat – toe hy by die woordjie “vrede” kom bars ek en sy ma uit van die lag – hy is nogsteeds kwaad oor ek vir hom gelag het – willie eers sy gunsteling gemmerkoekies by my vat nie, ek word net sonder n oog wat wyk – vas in die oe gekyk. Natuurlik het die kinders nie die geleentheid laat verby gaan om my te laat man staan vir die oorgedraagde gene nie 😉
Ai lekker lag ek nou! Oulik as hulle so bekkig is. Mens wil hulle ook nie ander hê nie.
Wens ek het vleis gehad om te eet, en dit nog oordadig?
Ja Gawie ek weet nie hoe lank die malse skaapvoorraad in die kaap sal volhou nie – die boere kan darrem nog hulle skape
op hierdie stadium veilig laat wei sonder dat dit gesteel word. begin ook maar hoor van diefstal verliese maar net een of twee nie sommer lorrievragte soos daar by julle nie. Die land gaan daagliks agteruit.
Kreef is ons voorland Riempies. Selfs in die binneland sal kreef aansienlik goedkoper wees as vleis 🙂
Dink net dan kan ons elke dag met die hoofmaal afskop met n indrukwekkende kreefkelkie en vir die hoofgereg n mooi geskilderde eier voorsit gekamoefleur met blaarslaai en rooi geel en groen”peppers” 😉
Moet ek nou eerlik bieg – ek het nog nooit myself sover kon kry om eers te proe aan kreef nie (kelkie of te not) Hulle laat my aan skerpioene dink. My man is lief daarvoor ek hou maar altyd liewer by sole en kyk anderpad vir sy kreef.
Van vis gepraat – die vis het baie skaars en duur geraak hier by ons – ons kon altyd stokvis en snoek gekoop het op die hawe maar die meeste vissers het ophou vang want dit kos hulle tyd en n fortuin en dan kom hulle terug met n skamele vangs – indien enige. Sjinese het mos al ons vis met troller kom opvang en die ANC kader het mos mos net die lisensies vir hulleself en ryk pelle uitgedeel.
Genadiglik is dit darem een ding wat ons tot nou toe gespaar is en dit is vee diefstal asook misdaad in die algemeen.
Ek het gepraat interme van Klerksdorp ( jy woon mos
daar?) Potchefstroom en omgewing en omringende dorpe – dit gaan rof daar het ek
gehoor.
Jy is reg, HIER IS DIT NAG, maar dit is droog en die vee is maar aan die skraal kant.
Kan hierdie” gebeurtenis” n goeie geleentheid wees vir n “false flag” Ek kan nie glo 20mil is baie vir enige staatshoof, vir al as hy reeds gese het hy gaan kom.Miskien weet mossad iets.Liebermann het nie verniet gewaarsku nie.
Hoe is daai vir a sameswerings teorie ha ha!!!
Wel, 20mil vir niks is duur vir enigiemand. En daar is ook die koste van tyd.
Miskien is die rede dat Benjamin Netanyahu weet dat Mandela n teroris is en daarom nie salbywoon en so sy tyd mors nie. Hy is ook besig om Israel se veiligheid teen Iran op te skerp veral nadat Obama en John Kerry n ooreenkoms met Iran gesluit het wat Iran dus toelaat om sy kernwapens op te bou
Nee, hy’s net suurgat omrede hy nie opgehemelde begrafnis gaan kry nie. Hy is ook nie meer so populer soos Raka Mandela nie.
Ons praat dieselfde taal Netanyahu.
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ek ook nie.
ek het my hele dag gemors gister om te kyk of die “messias” opstaan, ek is terleurgesteld, uiters.
Laat dit vir jou n les wees jou ou sondaar ;-)))))
forgive me Riempies, for I have sinned….
sien!…… die tweede fase van die “struggle” skop in, die leier gaan ondergronds, ai!
Ek sien dat die ANC elite hulle baie ver verwyder van die gewone swarte in die plakkerskampe – ek sweer dit is nooit ander nie – hulle is bang daarom moes ou Mandela so lank ly om hulle veiligheidsnetwerk in orde te kry.
100% Riempies, die troefkaarte word op die regte tyd gebruik, die volgende “ACE up his SLEAVE” is red berret….
Wat nou weer van Nkandla?….
As die verkiessing nie “sy” manier loop nie gaan iemand weer ondergronds……. ek sien erens in my geestes oog n rooi berret…..
Kyk wat wys hy vir hulle! Peace brothers!!!!
Ek vertolk dit bietjie anders.
wat?, twee biere?
Kan wees
JAVR sien nou eers. Kyk weer na die vingers, as die hand palm weg van jou wys is dit vrede. Indien palm na jou gewys, soos op die foto, is dit mos wat jy vir die taxi’s sê wat voor jou indraai of oor die rooi robot ry, of het ek dit nou verkeerd?
Gee daardie man ( Netanyahu) ‘n …. staande ovasie – hy kom op vir die regte van sy eie land. Ek wonder of die regering die boodskap gaan kry? Dit gaan nie oor dat dit “te duur” is nie, maar oor die ANC-regering se jarelange openlike keuse om eerder die Palestyne se belange op die hart te dra.
Jy is reg Henrietta. Die ANC haat Israel soos die Arabiere en die swastika-gesindes in Europa en Suid-Afrika.
I think there will be a final Zionist ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Because the whole Zionist game plan has been to make life hell for the Palestinians of the Occupied Territories. But they’they’ve nowhere to go and they aren’t going to pack up and go. So when it dawns on Israel’s leaders, as it will, that the demographic time bomb is ticking, and they can’t bring on-stream a puppet Palestinian government that will accept crumbs from Zionism’s table, then there will be the final ethnic cleansing. And it can happen very easily. You get six Mossad agents dressed as Palestinian terrorists and kill thirty, forty, fifty Jews or whatever. And that’s it. Away you go…an internal Israel-Palestine false-flag operation.
Dis buitendien Amerikaanse geld so wat sal dit hulle pla. Hulle kry biljoene elke jaar van die Jewnited States.
Nelson Mandela het destyds die Palestyne belowe om hulle te steun maar dan mag hulle nie “apartheid” vir hulleself na jaag nie. Omrede die Israeliete “apartheid” verkies is hulle nie in die ANC se goeie boeke nie.
Hulle moet die front bly voorhou dat die “regse” Jode teen die “linkse” Jode is en andersom.. terwyl hul eintlik twee hande van een liggaam is. ‘n Liggaam wat oorlog voer teen die volgelinge van Christus.
An American company bids on a military project in Africa. It finds its prime competitor is an Israeli company that submitted not just a superficially identical proposal but the same typographical and syntax errors as well. The Anti-Defamation League publishes the names of Americans invited to Iran for a film festival. Ten days later, Iran contacts the same journalists asking if they would be “interested in attending.” The source of this information was the NSA, in this case, not just spying on Iran or American journalists but American defense contracting firms, and doing so on behalf of foreign competitors. NSA involvement in copyright piracy or commercial espionage, though now known, has yet to be addressed.
What we have learned is that the NSA’s supercomputers with their insatiable appetite for highly encrypted data have been not just intercepting operational intelligence and highly classified policy communications but have, without consideration for the aftermath, simply released it all to Israel, without one word redacted, including White House correspondence.
Recent revelations have tied the NSA to intelligence agencies, not just in Britain, France and Germany, but around the world. Earlier revelations covering their agreement with Israel admitted that all raw data, including that withheld from US intelligence agencies and even the White House, is regularly sent to Israel.
Information withheld from the Director of the Central Intelligence Agency or Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, information critical to American defense and foreign policy initiatives, is sent out of the country with “no questions asked.”
There are no agreements in place as to what is done with this information, whom it is sold to or how it is used. No one has asked, no one seems to care
Security protocols long in place restrict the distribution of such data and prohibit its distribution to any foreign entity under any circumstance. Statute demands criminal prosecution for any violating these protocols.
However, something has been discovered even more alarming. The NSA has been distributing, through Israel or other possible avenues, we have no way of discerning any of their activities, “work product” of other US intelligence agencies, defense and intelligence contracting firms and even the US State Department.
Documents have been found in Africa, distributed by Israeli and Chinese defense groups, not just containing “NOFORN” restricted material but actual operational intelligence documents that were still in “edit” predistribution form.
The NSA not only intercepts voice and data but has hacked tens of thousands of networks giving them full access to every document, every draft, every project folder on every American technology be it source code for commercial computer programs or video games but also things far more lethal.
The NSA and its “downline” of foreign clients are now part and parcel of every project team from Los Alamos to the Kennedy Space Center.
Why would a massive internal industrial espionage operation be run by the NSA? For whose benefit?
There is substantial proof that the NSA spies on US intelligence agencies, American defense contractors and research facilities and personnel working on the most sensitive projects tied to national security.
Then the NSA sends, by their own admission, every iota of that intelligence to Israel where, minimally, it is used to undermine American commercial interests.
Is it also sold to Russia and China? The lessons learned from the real Jonathan Pollard investigation, the real reason he has spent nearly 30 years in prison yields one answer, a resounding “yes!”
For those unfamiliar with Jonathan Pollard, you can read a highly fictionalized outline of his activities from the Jewish Virtual Library:
“In 2006, Rafael Eitan (IDF Chief of Staff) said, ‘It is likely that we could have gotten the same information without him.’ He also said, however, that Pollard provided ‘information of such high quality and accuracy, so good and so important to the country’s security” that “my desire, my appetite to get more and more material overcame me.’
He added that the information might have made a difference had Israel been involved in another war. Eitan also maintained that Pollard never exposed any American agents and that another spy, Aldrich Ames, tried to blame Pollard to divert suspicion from his activities.”
Based on the version of events as outlined above, Israel has demanded the release of Pollard for over 20 years, offering him a home in Israel and a hero’s welcome.
However, the debriefing of spy Aldrich Ames, supported by other sources showed Pollard to have passed on to Israel and by them to the Soviet Union, all NATO defense plans for Europe, America’s nuclear codes and to have brought about the death of over 1000 CIA operatives and assets behind the Iron Curtain. Based on this information, Pollard was sentenced to life in prison and has spent nearly 30 years behind bars.
In 1975, Israel signed a concord with South Africa to build nuclear weapons. Between then and 1989 ten nuclear devices were built with two, according to highest US intelligence sources, exploded: September 22, 1979, 18.2 kilotons detonated on Prince Edward Island, south of Cape Town. May 25, 2009, 182 kilotons, detonated in North Korea. Whenever Israel is involved – the public is never told. Why? Signatures as to origin of uranium and design of weapon (80 millisecond double-flash) showed identical origin.
During the 1990s, Pakistani nuclear scientists A. Q. Khan was tasked through a joint project of the ISI and CIA to offer nuclear trigger devices. Several thermo-nuclear weapons had “gone missing” in a B 52 crash off the coast of Somalia and were believed to require both new trigger devices and, perhaps, tritium gas recharging before they could be used. This created an “opening” where others involved in illegal proliferation operations, including part of the Israeli team from South Africa, could blame Khan while, in this case, helping Gaddafi in Libya develop nuclear weapons. Another fictionalized account, this one from the Monterrey Institute of International Studies (2005):
South African bomb casings – the real deal
Police transferred the 11 containers to South Africa’s nuclear research center at Pelindaba for inspection by South African police and the IAEA. It is estimated that the 200 tons of equipment for the plant was worth around $33 million. During the raid, authorities also discovered various equipment designs that had been sent from KRL. Meyer was arrested on September 2, 2004 and charged with violating the Non-Proliferation of Weapons of Mass Destruction Act and the Nuclear Energy Act.
Specifically, he was charged with importing and exporting a flow forming lathe that can be used to produce centrifuge components, as well as equipment for a gas centrifuge plant.
He admitted in an official statement that he knew the parts were to be used for a manufacturing plant, but he was unaware that the final destination was Libya. Charges were later dropped against Meyer in exchange for cooperation in the ongoing investigations into the Khan network.” Some of what is given above is true but not much. Meyer was arrested. However, he was broken out of jail by an Israeli special operations team and flown to Israel where he lives today. There is no record of Meyer assisting any investigation and no record of him existing in South Africa or leaving legally. There are no court records supporting the statements made in the paragraphs above.
Daa’s hy my tjaaina!
Moenounie julle Sjekkils op die Effenbie konsert vermors nie.
Sjee hulle twee van die beste!!!
En sommer nog enetjie so op sy eie lonesome self, virre bonus
🙂
Yes,the flight from Israel to SA will prove costly.
At the last minute he did pitch for his anc pal.
He lied for security reasons.
Now that the forensic Swiss team from Lausanne came out with its recent report suggesting if not confirming that Yasser Arafat was assassinated through a high dosage of “polonium”. This report raised more questions that it answers.
1. Why 9 years ago, did his widow Suha Arafat, his family and the PLO leadership failed to demand a full autopsy immediately after his death and demand to preserve all the evidence and his medical records and failed to demand and open a formal coroner board of inquiry into his death given the rapid deterioration in his health in his last days?
2. Why does his widow Suha Arafat demand an international investigation into his death now and not immediately after his death…? Perhaps the millions she got from the PLO were too tempting at the time.
3. Why did the PLO and Fatah leadership failed to even open a formal inquiry into his death then, when they claim that Israel was out to kill Arafat? Well, Arafat was killed by some one, perhaps more than one within his very inner circles who had “ the smoking gun”.
Perhaps the present the PLO/ Fatah leadership knew of it, if not suspecting it but they were all too happy to see him out of the way having finished his mission for Israel. Now the new team in the leadership will continue with their journey to finish what Arafat started in Oslo. Sell what remains of Palestine. In conclusion, Yasser Arafat and the PLO were and are nothing but a big fraud, a big lie, the most corrupt; incompetent failed “liberation” organization in the history of liberation movements.
When Arafat returned to manage the Jewish Occupation, he brought with him a collection of human trash to help him manage the task entrusted to him by Israel. That is why some 20 years later, there are no credible governing institutions with corruption, incompetence as the rule not the exception.
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I think there will be a final Zionist ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Because the whole Zionist game plan has been to make life hell for the Palestinians of the Occupied Territories. But they’they’ve nowhere to go and they aren’aren’t going to pack up and go. So when it dawns on Israel’s leaders, as it will, that the demographic time bomb is ticking, and they can’t bring on-stream a puppet Palestinian government that will accept crumbs from Zionism’s table, then there will be the final ethnic cleansing. And it can happen very easily. You get six Mossad agents dressed as Palestinian terrorists and kill thirty, forty, fifty Jews or whatever. And that’s it. Away you go…an internal Israel-Palestine false-flag operation.
Ja, vir hulle is dit maklik want die Israeli’s (let wel nie Israeliete nie) lyk daar maar net soos die Arabiere.
En as jy die Sioniste wil aanvat, moet jy eers die Rotskilde en Rockerf*ckers ens moet uithaal.
Nie moontlik om die illuminati te verdiskonteer nie. As die Boere nie kon nie kan niemand anders nie.
Deur met diamante en goud die internasionale mark te versadig (flood) is die sogenaamde SA puhr in sy muhr.
Nou wat nou – ek dog Rusland en die ANC terroriste beweging is bloedbroers!
Dit gaan oor belange nie bloed nie.
Wie het van bloed gepraat – Se jy liewer vir my wie oorvloei die mark met goud en diamante?
Onthou jy nog die sage (hartverscheurend) met die Amerikaanse skip met die naam LIBERTY in die tyd van pres. Johnson? So werk dit as “belange” beleid dikteer en toegesmeer word. Terloops, wie het JFK om die lewe gebring?
israel? skietrter was genaamnd SAUL, n eks CIA??
Verstandhouding: Die Russe het die verstand en die ANC die houding met tien vingers uit gestrek na hulle toe.
Ja, ek hou van die jode. Joodse vrouens weet hoe om hulle manne te plesier. ‘n Lekker lyf ook. Mmmmmmm…
VUILG@T !!
Die Israelis het ook ‘n misdaad teen die mensdom gepleeg. Die Israeliete is aangekla daarvoor en sal binne afzienbare tyd in die ISH verskyn in Den Haag.
Israel has six months for their stage two attempt of wrecking the Mideast peace process. They have lost no time launching their counter attack. Like the pros they are, they had their B-Team preparing for the expected loss at Geneva Two.They have used their traditional route for seeding the public’s mind with new fears, using the ever ready Congressmen and Senators to front their subversion of American democracy. The Founding Fathers of the USA knew they could never keep what they had given to the Yanks without an informed citizenry to protect itself from government expanding its power through all kinds of contrived machinations. Militant Zionists have contrived machinations in their DNA, something they justify simply by saying that others (Afrikaners?) would do this if they could, so they are just beating them to the punch. That would be a popular billboard message for every prison on the planet. There is a consensus among analysts that the Zios’ first move would be to claim Iran was not in compliance with the agreement. There are pros who have dealt with the slippery and slimy types, so anticipating their moves becomes second nature after a few decades. For a country which has milked a couple of decades out of an invisible bomb a non-compliance scam is just a piece of cake. The Israelis just make the charge and never provide any real support for it. They have a wonderful echo chamber in the US that hypnotizes Americans into accepting accusations as proof if they are heard often enough. The Zionist lobby machine, to accomplish that, has long been constructed and remains well oiled from constant use.
From a wise guy: It is time to take the gloves off and go after the militant Zionists, and this includes all those who have worked with them. Whether they are participants in the lies or not makes no difference. A victim cares little over whether he was killed by a murderer or a drunk driver because the result is the same.
A lot of work has gone into getting the West where we are now, where we have some momentum. We have dodged some head shot bullets, like with the Syria attack. Now it is upon us to honour those victories by doing what needs to be done…denuclearize and demilitarize Zionist Israel. See you on the front lines.
From a wise guy: Following the interim agreement with Iran the next six months will tell us whether or not the American-led Zionist lobby and Zionism itself has played its last card and lost. If it does lose President Obama will be free to use the leverage he has to try to cause Israel to be serious about peace on terms almost all Palestinians and most other Arabs and Muslims everywhere could accept (and which would not pose any threat to the wellbeing and security of those Jews now living in Palestine that became Israel and who wanted to stay). The stakes could not be higher.
From a wise guy: There is a big difference between a reality embroidered with propaganda (Nelson Mandela) and a fantasy placed into an authentic sounding historical setting (Jesus Christ). The Jesus tale is very much in the latter category – a
fictional drama in which a stereotypical hero has been intruded into a more or less realistic historical landscape. And as we would expect of a fictional creation, there exists neither a single contemporaneous reference to such a character nor a single genuine artifact to confirm or substantiate that he ever walked the earth. Die Jode se Messias (Jesus) was ‘n mislukking en het as Jood gesterf aan ‘n stauro. Waarom sal ‘n hoog geplaatste Israeli (ex Pool) nog ‘n mislukte Messias se begrafnis by woon?
The wise guy says:
1. While geography was the reason behind the development of the brilliant civilizations of both the Egyptians and the Sumerians, it was on the other side, and ironically enough, the main cause for the Hebrews’ misfortune. Delivered to the savagery of the clans and squeezed in a land barren and hostile between the ancient superpowers without any chance of military resistance or evolving further beyond the nomadic/unsettled structure, the Jews turned to metaphysics and began to fantasize. In an atmosphere of despair and rage (especially after the Romans ruthlessly crushed what was seen as the last Hebrew disobedience) the Jewish religious megalomaniac Messianic fantasies prospered.
2. The powerlessness of the Jews found an outlet in the myths and invented a glorious national history- something similar to what modern day Zionism did – avenging long years of ostracism and cruelty and dragging the names of their enemies through the dirt. In their Bible the Hebrew scribes unleashed the dagger of malevolence and took a stab at the superpowers of the ancient world, namely Egypt, Sumer and Babylon. Through a prism of total prejudice, and deeply seated grudge, the Hebrew scribes wrote, page up and page down, not what really happened in ancient times, but rather what they wished had happened. So, in their scrolls, the Hebrew scribes depicted Babel (Babylon) as the hot bed of vice with its tower in ruin, where in reality it stood 90 meters high and Egypt as the land of slavery and tyranny, devastated by Yahweh’s gruesome punishments in the aftermath of which Egypt’s King and his army drowned, where in fact Egypt
stood for uninterrupted 3000 years as one of the ancient world’s superpowers.
3. At that time, something quite weird, that only analytical psychology could
explain, started taking place in the Hebrew Bible. Everything the Israelites desperately longed for (a mythology with fascinating stories like that of the Sumerians, a religion with big temples like that of the Egyptians … and yes, a piece of land they could call home like everybody else) the Hebrew scribes made damn sure it was granted to them on the pages of their bible. Dis hoog tyd Boere kom tot hulle sinne oor die “beloofde land” waar soveel bloedvergieting plaas vind om mag te bekom en behou. Hierdie bedreiging is deur die Weste self geskep. Jou eie honde byt gewoonlik die seerste. Qui vive “Weste” jy is gewaarsku.Shalom.
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