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Mark Rutte mag voor de buitenwacht Vladimir Poetin nog een diplomatieke handreiking hebben gedaan inzake het MH17 drama, achter de schermen wordt samen met de Verenigde Staten een plan B gesmeed. Dat melden bronnen van Spitsnieuws.nl in Polen, die dichtbij de Amerikaanse ambassade staan.

Op zo’n twintig kilometer van de Poolse hoofdstad Warschau bereiden Nederlandse, maar vooral Amerikaanse, militairen zich volgens de Spitsnieuws.nl bronnen voor op een invasie in het gebied waar donderdag de brokstukken van vlucht MH17 van Malaysia Airlines neerkwamen. Daarbij kunnen eventueel ook Nederlandse F16’s worden ingezet. Deze voeren normaal gesproken patrouillevluchten boven de Baltische staten uit. Zowel de Nederlandse als de Amerikaanse autoriteiten hebben zich tot nu toe nog niet geuit over een plan B.

Zowel premier Mark Rutte als minister van Buitenlandse Zaken Frans Timmermans gaven vanmiddag afzonderlijk van elkaar aan de situatie rondom het neergestorte vliegtuig in het oosten van Oekraïne via diplomatieke weg op te willen lossen. Ondertussen zou dus ook al aan een plan B gewerkt worden.

Minister Timmermans is teruggekeerd uit Oekraïne. Het ministerie van Buitenlandse Zaken laat weten dat Timmermans daar “heeft gedaan wat hij kon doen en heeft gesproken met wie hij wilde spreken“. De bewindsman heeft in Kiev onder meer ontmoetingen gehad met president Porosjenko en premier Jatsenjoek. Ook heeft hij een bezoek gebracht aan de Nederlandse ambassade, waar veel Oekraïners sinds donderdag bloemen leggen.

Timmermans vertrok vrijdagavond samen met forensische onderzoekers, een officier van justitie en leden van de Onderzoeksraad voor Veiligheid naar Kiev. De minister wilde zich er persoonlijk voor inzetten dat de delegatie in Oekraïne ongehinderd aan de slag kan gaan. Daarover zijn de afgelopen dag afspraken gemaakt.

Een militaire actie klinkt niet heel ongeloofwaardig na de felle bewoordingen waarin president Barack Obama zich gisteravond uitsprak. Aangenomen mag worden dat zodra Washington voldoende aanleiding heeft, de crash site door militairen zal worden ingenomen, afgeschermd en de plunderende separatisten worden ingerekend. Vervolgens kan normaal, onafhankelijk onderzoek worden verricht en de stoffelijke overschotten van de inzittenden van de rampvlucht op correcte wijze worden geborgen.

Bron: Spitsnieuws.nl

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13 responses to “Oorlog om MH17?”

  1. Gas Avatar
    Gas

    Nee, dit is nie waar nie. Dis Amerikaanse propaganda http://www.refdag.nl/nieuws/anp/binnenland/rutte_behandeling_lijken_lijkt_zorgvuldig_1_843090

    1. FR2P Avatar
      FR2P

      The Americans want war befor they are outed as the perps http://news.yahoo.com/netherlands-opens-investigation-airliner-shoot-down-131650202.html

      1. Gas Avatar
        Gas

        Hulle gaan dit nie maklik kry nie http://www.refdag.nl/nieuws/anp/binnenland/vervolging_daders_neerhalen_toestel_lastig_1_843094

    2. AntSan Avatar
      AntSan

      Jy agter met jou navorsing? Iran Air 655. Die Brics Bank gaan nie goed af nie.

      1. Gas Avatar
        Gas

        Nee ek is nie agter nie. Maar Amerika is ‘n groot versamelterm, so dit moet verfyn word. Bedoel jy die VSA/Iran/China as?

      2. Guest Avatar
        Guest

        Lord Rottenchild, Satans own private cutout, wants all our money to save his dynasty’s failing Satanic plan. In the meantime sheeple awaken, and the enemies of their enemies are becoming useful friends. Go Russia, China and BRICS. Next stop, a goodbye party for the dollar. Woopee!

  2. Willem Avatar
    Willem

    Presies wat die VSA probeer regkry; om die oorlog verder uit te brei.
    En hulle sal moet vinnig spring, voor te veel feite aan die lig kom wie werklik verantwoordelik is vir die afskiet van die vliegtuig..

  3. Guest Avatar
    Guest

    US intelligence agencies have detailed satellite images of the Buk and it was under the control of Ukrainian government troops dressed in Ukrainian uniforms, supported by Washington, says AP’s investigative reporter Robert Parry.

    1. FR2P Avatar
      FR2P

      The Main Directorate of the General Staff of the Armed Forces (GRU) is reporting today that within 5-minutes of President Putin warning his US counterpart, President Obama, that “war games” being carried out by NATO member Royal Canadian Air Force (RCAF) forces over Romania could lead to a “potential catastrophe”, Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 was destroyed over the eastern conflict region of Ukraine.

      According to this report, Putin was in flight during his call to Obama returning to Moscow aboard his presidential aircraft from Brazil when he was notified that there were a number of “critical radar anomalies” occurring over EUROCONTROL zones in Central Europe.

      EUROCONTROL, which boasts that it has a “unique approach to civil-military aviation coordination in Europe”, this report says, is solely responsible for determining civil aircraft flight paths over European airspace and had previously, along with NATO forces, been accused by Slovakian authorities of being a part of the massive radar blackouts occurring over Central Europe between 5-10 June causing planes to disappear from their air traffic controllers screens.

      Even though the Slovak state Air Traffic Services company said that the disappearance of these planes from radar screens was connected to a military exercise whose goal was “the interruption of radio communication frequencies”, this report continues, NATO denied being involved stating that their AWACS surveillance aircraft that had been flying regular missions over Europe to monitor Russian activities near Ukraine and did not have a radar jamming capability.

      This GRU report, however, states that NATO was being “highly deceptive” in their denial as no one had identified, indeed even mentioned, AWACS aircraft as being a part of the June radar blackouts over the heart of Europe, but instead had named NATO-RCAF CF-18 Hornets based in Romania as potentially being the cause.

      The RCAF CF-18 Hornets belong to the 425 Tactical Fighter Squadron and began arriving in Romania in the days prior to the 5-10 June where they began engaging in “highly provocative war games”, this report says, which included electronic jamming of civilian flight radars.

      So “provocative” have RCAF pilots been, GRU experts in this report note, last week they were tasked by NATO to begin “direct confrontations” along the Russia border with Lithuania against Russian Air Force pilots beginning in August.

      As to why the RCAF has been so “provocative” in their war games over Romania-Ukrainian skies, this report says, is “directly related” to the ongoing controversy in Canada relating their intended purchase of US F-35 fighter jets as opposed to upgrading their current CF-18’s into what are called Super Hornets.

      Specifically being tested by RCAF CF-18 Hornets over Romania and Ukraine since early June, GRU experts in this report further states, were those aircraft having completed the Incremental Modernization Project Phase II which equipped them with an Integrated Electronic Warfare Support Station and what is called the Electronic Warfare Test Equipment Project.

      Now upon Putin being advised yesterday of the “critical situation” over Ukraine relating to these RCAF “war games”, this report says, he immediately contacted Obama where he related to him the “grave consequences” that could occur if these “activities” weren’t immediately halted.

      Specifically concerning Putin, which this report says was also related to Obama, was the 3 July accusation by Ukraine that three helicopters bearing the markings of the Russian armed forces had violated Ukrainian airspace several times.

      Five days later, on 8 July, the Ukrainian State Aviation Service announced that they shut down their airspace in the southeast of the country, but curiously further stated it would “remain closed to civilian aircraft for security reasons with the exception of transit flights at altitudes of above 7,900 m until the situation fully normalizes”.

      Following their 8 July airspace shutdown, this report continues, the Defense Ministry warned that Ukrainian battalions of 27 Buk-M1 missile systems able to hit targets across the entire altitude range were then deployed near the city of Donetsk in the region where Malaysia Airlines MH17 was destroyed.

      Important to note about the Buk missile system, this report says, is that its technological sophistication seriously impacts its battlefield use as this weapon as used in a battalion consists of a command vehicle, a target acquisition radar (TAR) vehicle, six transporter erector launcher and radar (TELAR) vehicles and three transporter erector launcher (TEL) vehicles.

      As to the exact and tragic destruction of Malaysia Airlines MH17 yesterday, this report concludes, the “electronic war games” being conducted by the RCAF in some way altered the course of this civilian plane [photo bottom left] putting it on a flight path it had never taken before in its previous 10 flights to the Russian Air Base in Morozovsk located in the Rostov Oblast close to the border with Ukraine, and which in normalized times was the accepted route to this destination for Russian military flights.

  4. Guest Avatar
    Guest

    Hello *****,

    On Friday, the Daily Mail, one of the major UK tabloids carried photos and video of what was alleged to be a rebel “Buk” launcher heading back to Russia. http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/video-emerges-of-missile-launcher-heading-for-russia-minus-2-rockets The article carried a claim from some Ukrainian source that the launcher was missing several missiles after having shot them at the Malaysian 777. The article was prominently linked to the Drudge Report, and so was probably viewed by several million people.

    Today, this meme made it into Uncle Sam’s official narrative, as per the following New York Times excerpt:

    On the CBS program “Face the Nation,” Mr. Kerry referred to a video that the Ukrainians have made public showing an SA-11 unit heading back to Russia after the downing of the plane with “a missing missile or so.”

    The video referenced by the New York Times was, in fact, posted on the Facebook account of the Ukrainian Interior Minister. The allegation was that the launcher was crossing the border with Russia.

    However, going by the billboard and other features of the scenery, Russian bloggers and news sources claim to have identified the road in the video as having been taken in or near the town of Krasnoarmeisk (“Krasnoarmiysk” in Ukrainian), which has been under Kiev’s control since May.

    In fact, the billboard is supposedly advertising a Krasnoarmeisk car dealership. Also, one of the structures in the background is said to be a construction materials store on Gorkii Street, Krasnoarmeisk.

    Please note that this town is (very roughly) 120 kilometers from the Russian border and 80 kilometers from where the Malaysian 777 went down. And again, it has been under Kiev’s control since May.

    At least one other clip of the “Russian Buk” that has been made available also suggests that the Ukrainians are showing their own equipment. I’m still working on researching that one for you.

    1. Gas Avatar
      Gas

      Wie gaan hierdie vir Poldi stuur?

  5. FR2P Avatar
    FR2P

    Germany Races To Stop US-Backed July Terror Attack

    A chilling new report prepared by the Federal Security Service (FSB) says that Russian intelligence experts were contacted earlier today by Germany’s foreign secret service agency Bundesnachrichtendienst (BND) and warned that the Obama regime is planning a “catastrophic 9/11-type false flag terror attack” to occur on or about 28 July in order to “mask” the pending collapse of the current global economic system.

    According to this report, the BND contacted the FSB earlier today after it had arrested a second Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) agent engaged in “grave terrorist offences” in Germany relating to “nuclear devices” being smuggled into both Europe and America for an attack(s) to be blamed on the shadowy Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL/ISIS) leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, who like Osama bin Laden before him is being funded by both Saudi Arabia and the US.

    The uncovering of this plot by the BND, this report continues, was due, in part, to secret National Security Agency/Central Security Service (NSA/CSS) documents released by former CIA agent whistleblower Edward Snowden and which were due to be published last week.

    When contacted last week by the reporters due to release this information, this report says, the BND “requested and received” an “assurance” from them not to publish the full details of their discovery until Germany intelligence agents were able to arrest the CIA terror cell members and (hopefully) stop their planned attack.

    Critical to note in support of this FSB report is that the highly respected freedom of speech, cryptography, spying, and surveillance organization Cryptome, upon their learning of the planned suppression of these Snowden documents warned last week: “July is when war begins unless headed off by Snowden full release of crippling intel. After war begins not a chance of release, Warmongerers are on a rampage. So, yes, citizens holding Snowden docs will do the right thing.”

    Also important to note, Glen Greenwald further explained that his failure to release these Snowden documents by stating: “After 3 months working on our story, USG [the United States government] today suddenly began making new last-minute claims which we intend to investigate before publishing.”

    In a further confirming of the BND’s fears, this FSB report says, Snowden information that was released Sunday include “fresh revelations about a secret overseas nuclear project, double-dealing by an ostensible ally, a military calamity that befell an unfriendly power, and the identities of aggressive intruders into U.S. computer networks.”

    Germany’s fears relating to a planned false flag attack engineered by the US, this report explains, is rooted in their previous experience dealing with Washington during and after the tragic 9/11 events, and which in a suppressed 2002 official German government report shockingly stated:

    “On Monday 6, August, 2001, at 17:50, [German] Ambassador Ischinger personally notified the President of the United States that information developed by the Bundesamt fur Verfassungsschutz [German domestic secret service] as well as the BND [Bundesnachrichtendienst, German foreign secret service] indicated that an attack by a radical Arab group partially based in Germany was to occur on 10-11 September, 2001.

    The President was at that time in residence at his farm in Texas. Our [the German’s] Ambassador was acting in direct response to instructions from Foreign Minister Fischer.

    This information was developed from official surveillance of Arab extremist groups operating in the Federal Republic as well as from intercepted communications between the Embassy of Israel and the Israeli Foreign Ministry in Tel Aviv concerning this matter.

    The information was “gratefully received” by the US President who stated at the time that he was also aware of the same pending assaults.

    Subsequent to these attacks, the office of the US President, through the US Department of State, made an urgent request to the government of the Federal Republic of Germany that no reference whatsoever should be made to the official warnings given by Ambassador Ischinger.

    In order to clarify the background of this matter, this Gesamtubersicht [overall survey] of the events leading to the assault was prepared, basing on extracts of reports from our [BND’s] foreign stations. Overall, it is evident that the American authorities were aware of the pending attacks.” [Read full report HERE]

    As to the timing of this/these false flag terror attacks being planned by the Obama regime, this report continues, is due to the rapidly collapsing global economic system, and which caused the “central banks’ central bank” Bank for International Settlements (BIS) to order during the last fortnight that the world’s central banks “stage a market collapse now rather than later.”

    Information coming from America, this FSB report further notes, is that the US Federal Reserve is now apparently heeding this order from BIS and is planning a “controlled collapse” of the American economy, and which with the collapse of Portugal’s largest bank today, Espirito Santo International SA, shows may indeed be “too little too late”.

    Important to note about this coming global economic collapse are that the “drivers” of it are the same as we warned about in our 28 June 2007 report US Banking Collapse ‘Imminent’ Warns French Banking Giant in which we forewarned: “French banking giant Société Générale Group, through its subsidiary SG CIB, the 3rd largest corporate and investment bank in the Euro zone, has warned today in a confidential report that the American banking system is in danger of ‘imminent collapse’ due to the hedge fund failures at US banking giant Bear Stearns…”

    Most unfortunately, especially for the American people about our 2007 warning, was that they had been “conditioned” by US intelligence covert agents to only believe what their government propagandists told them was true…but which the Financial Crisis of 2007–08 showed how wrong they were when they lost trillions of their savings and pensions, and tens of millions more were thrown from their homes.

    In fact: As we had warned on 28 June 2007 that the collapse was coming in order for people to be able to protect themselves…as late as 11 March 2008, top US financial expert Jim Cramer of CNBC was screaming at his viewers… “Do NOT take your money out of Bear Sterns! Everything is FINE!” Six days later…Bear Sterns collapsed.

    To the events being described in this FSB report, however, it should be noted that (hopefully) these Western peoples are much wiser to “The Great Game” being played with them being, once again, the pawns who will suffer the most…but who are less likely to believe the “official story” now being drilled daily into their minds…even as these planed Obama regime terror attacks are about to be unleashed.

    July 9, 2014

    1. Rentia Diedericks Avatar
      Rentia Diedericks

      Ja, ek het so gedink toe ek sien die Duitse verklarings sê dis ‘n baie ernstige saak

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