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Selfs ‘n skietgebedjie help vir selfbeheersing

gebedDie jongste studie deur die Duitse sielkundiges by Saarland Universiteit en die Universiteit van Mannheim, het bevind dat gebed mense help met selfbeheersing.

‘n Skietgebedjie kan die selfbeheersingsuitputtingseffek omkeer, het die span bevind. Die bevindinge is in die Journal of Experimental Social Psycology aanlyn gepubliseer.

“Hierdie resultate is in ooreenstemming met en dra by tot ‘n groeiende liggaam van bevindinge wat getuig van die positiewe effekte van gebed op selfbeheersing.”

Gebed is reeds in die verlede gekoppel aan laer vlakke van ontrouheid en alkoholverbruik.

Die Duitse skrywers het 79 mense, waarvan 41 is Christene is, 14 ateïste, 10 agnostici en 14 van ander godsdienste, gevra om deel te neem.

Deelnemers was elkeen alleen gelaat vir vyf minute en gevra om óf te bid of vrylik oor een ding so intens as moontlik te dink.

Volgende het hulle almal gekyk na grappige filmuittreksels met die helfte wat normaalweg reageer het en die ander helfte probeer het om hul emosies te onderdruk en hulle gesigsreaksies te beheer.

Ten slotte, het hulle aan Strooptoetse deelgeneem waar woorde kleure beskryf maar verskyn in verskillende kleure ink, soos die woord blou geskryf in rooi ink.

Vorige bevindings het getoon dat wanneer mense hard probeer om hul emosies en gedagtes te beheer, hulle die risiko van aggressiewe uitbarstings en ​​drankmisbruik of ooreet verhoog.

Deelnemers moes reageer op die inkkleur, nie die geskrewe woord nie, wat selfbeheersing vra.

Diegene wat vrylik in die eerste deel van die toets gedink het en toe probeer het om hul emosies tydens die filmstrokies te onderdruk het gesukkel met die Strooptaak.

Maar dit was nie die geval vir die deelnemers wat aan die begin van die studie gebid het nie.

Hulle het hoë vlakke van selfbeheersing tot aan die einde getoon.

Die skrywers het ook bevind dat diegene wat die eers gebid het net so hard probeer het om emosies tydens die filmstrokies te onderdruk, maar het nie uitgeput geraak daarvan nie.

Comments

204 responses to “Selfs ‘n skietgebedjie help vir selfbeheersing”

  1. Trippie Trip Avatar
    Trippie Trip

    Opregte gebed vermag baie.

    Vloer is oop vir die ateïste en die man wat die Egiptiese gode aanbid (Mad Heyns).

    1. Matt Heyns Avatar
      Matt Heyns

      The relationship with gods/god has always been one of man’s oldest preoccupations, and still is till this very day. And while it’s fair to assume that Modern day man owes his advancement in philosophy and science to ancient Greece and its earliest thinkers, it’s equally fair, when it comes to the development of religion and the evolution of religious thinking, to give credence to the ancient civilizations of Egypt and Mesopotamia.

      In fact, the earliest vestiges of human faith in a god, as we know it today, are to be traced back to the valley of the river Nile and between the rivers Euphrates and Tigris. We’re surely to find the root of our belief in a supreme creator inscribed, in hieroglyphs and cuneiform, on the pyramids and papyri of ancient Egypt and on the clay tablets of Sumer … And not within the confines of the Hebrew Bible, as many still believe.

    2. Matt Heyns Avatar
      Matt Heyns

      Jy is die een wat ‘n Egiptiese god vereer. Sy naam is Amen.

      1. Trippie Trip Avatar
        Trippie Trip

        Ek glo in God, die Almagtige Vader, die Skepper van hemel en aarde; en in Jesus Christus sy eniggebore Seun, onse Here, wat ontvang is van die Heilige Gees, gebore uit die Maagd Maria; wat gely het onder Pontius Pilatus, gekruisig, gestorwe en begrawe is; wat neergedaal het na die hel, die derde dag weer opgestaan het uit die dode, opgevaar het na die hemel en sit aan die regterhand
        van God, die almagtige Vader; vanwaar Hy sal kom om te oordeel die lewende en die dode. Ek glo in die Heilige Gees, die heilige kerk, die gemeenskap van die heiliges, die vergewing van sondes, die wederopstandingvan die vlees, en die ewige lewe.

        AMEN !

        1. Matt Heyns Avatar
          Matt Heyns

          Jy bedoel seker AMEIN want AMEN is ‘n Egiptiese god.

        2. Matt Heyns Avatar
          Matt Heyns

          Hierdie belydenis is een van drie wat die heidense tempels (kerke/geboue/circe) gesink het. Selfs al sal hierdie heidense instellings Belhar as vierde belydenis aanvaar sal dit nie help nie. Die “kerk” se kerk is uit. Duisende lidmate kam kluite ter bevestiging.

    3. Matt Heyns Avatar
      Matt Heyns

      Tot wie rig jy daai “gebede” van jou?

    4. Willem Delport Avatar
      Willem Delport

      Ateiste, soos jy ou girl, vereer die antieke Egiptiese god Amen. How come?

  2. Matt Heyns Avatar
    Matt Heyns

    Binyamin Netanyahu and almost the entire Israeli political establishment have achieved a new record in foolishness.

    Let us start from the end. Iran is the great victor. It has been warmly welcomed back into the family of civilized nations. Its currency, the rial, is jumping. Its prestige and influence in the region has become paramount. Its enemies in the Muslim world, Saudi Arabia and its gulf satellites, have been humiliated. Any military strike against it by anyone, including Israel, has become unthinkable.

    The image of Iran as a nation of crazy ayatollahs, fostered by Netanyahu and Ahmadinejad, has disappeared. Iran now looks like a responsible country, led by sober and shrewd leaders.

    Israel is the great loser. It has maneuvered itself into a position of total isolation. Its demands have been ignored, its traditional friends have distanced themselves. But above everything else, its relations with the US have been seriously damaged.

  3. Matt Heyns Avatar
    Matt Heyns

    1.
    The reason Christians will not accept that their gospel (as julle
    bid sal ons die grond vat) is in crisis is because they will have to admit
    publicly that it is all a fantasy based on faith, emotion, and feelings. In
    fact the most illiterate (uneducated) continents in the world are the most
    religious. Africa and Latin America head the list as they have the least
    atheists and non religious in the world. In other words most Christians are
    illiterate and therefore unable to logically analyze things. The rest are
    totally brain washed as a result of the propaganda and indoctrination they have
    had to endure since childhood when they were illiterate because; if you trust
    the good news gospel you need blind faith like a child as Jesus told us. It’s
    always the same story.

    2.
    Most people come across Christianity as children growing up
    (we are all born atheists) and understandably they are easily
    indoctrinated but when they become adults at twenty one years old they do not
    discard what they were told but allow themselves to remain brainwashed, because
    they can’t deal with the fact that life is indeed ultimately meaningless, so
    they need the illusion of a purpose driven life, where one is held by the
    loving hands of a caring personal God who takes you with him to spend eternal
    life in heaven when you die. They are still like little children in need of
    close family ties. That’s why they call their god “Abba” father, each other
    brother and sister, and themselves “sons of god” and Jesus (myth) is called a
    friend who sticks closer than a brother. Others come to Jesus when
    experiencing “hard times”. These would be sickness, substance abuse/addiction,
    bereavement, tragedy, poverty, divorce, war, instability, unemployment,
    orphaned, loss, accident, theft, etc. Preachers use the message of life’s
    situations and circumstances that corral you into a corner whereby “you feel a
    lack of control” and thereby you turn willingly, thankfully and robotically
    like being hypnotized to a “Christ” who: heals the broken hearted, sets the
    captive free and makes the lame to walk and the blind to see.

    3.
    People don’t need to be born again; they need to grow up, think
    for themselves by being educated and start to take responsibility for
    their own lives and rather strive to constantly improve as human beings
    unfettered by chains of superstitious thinking, where blaming the devil, sin
    nature etc is a convenient cop-out. Christianity is in crisis because we are
    living in the twenty first century. We have the science and technology. We are
    in the information revolution age, where being dumb on purpose is not a virtue
    and ignorance is not bliss. We have the internet and Google. The internet is
    doing to evangelical ideas and the Hebrew Bible what the printing press did to
    medieval Catholicism. Over the last 150 years evolution has been
    established as a scientific theory just like the theory of gravity. The Big
    Bang theory has now been proved by the discovery of the Higgs boson as the only
    explanation of how our universe is how it is. The out of Africa theory proved
    by genetics blows the Adam and Eve creation mythologized myth out of the water.
    There was no talking snake, no Adam and Eve and no original sin, therefore
    there is no need for a savior. We are not born in original sin and totally
    depraved. We originate from Africa.

    4.
    You can believe that evolution, the big bang and out of Africa
    Theories are flawed and full of holes because you do not want to understand
    them, but that does not mean that they are flawed. Serious scientists have
    proved that they are truth, who am I to argue? Do you argue with your Doctor or
    your IT Technician or the brain Surgeon; of course not. You would have to be
    insane to do that. That is why atheists regard evangelical Christians as
    mentally ill, deluded, gullible, naïve, superstitious, childish thinkers and as
    a result they have no credibility. Many contributors on MyNews24 tell us
    that they have a relationship with Jesus, and their life’s have changed and
    that is why they believe. They will explain that Jesus, the resurrected Son of
    God, is in their heart and that they respond and are guided by an inner witness
    of the Holy Ghost; therefore scientific facts, proofs, evidence, confirmation,
    verification, substantiation, corroboration and any knowledge opposing the
    Bible have never been stop signs or speed bumps on their “spiritual” path. The
    ultimate defense of their faith is their testimony. After all avenues of reason
    are exhausted (or more usually, at an impasse), many will proclaim that
    although they cannot always explain their beliefs, they always know why they
    believe and it’s because of what happened to them.

    5.
    The problem with using testimonies to validate beliefs is that it
    puts you in an untenable position. In order for your testimony to have any
    weight, it must be true to others as well. Yet what do you do about
    competing testimonies? If you acknowledge them, then for those people at least,
    your testimony holds no water. And this is especially damaging, since
    testimonies are often used to try to convince others that Christian ways are
    God’s ways, and that they really work. It does not help your cause if you
    reject competing testimonies as being of the devil, for then you cannot expect
    anyone to believe in yours. This, however, is the position that Christians must
    take, for otherwise their testimonies become meaningless. That is why
    Christians proclaim that the only way to the Father, joy and heaven is by Jesus
    “the door”, “the window”, “the gate”, “the way”, “the truth,” and “the life.”
    There is no other way. Only “born again” Christians will make it to heaven as
    they have become new creatures in Christ and are accepted by God as children of
    God.

    6.
    Yet in reality the only evidence for the indwelling of the Spirit
    comes from a few contested Bible verses, some contested philosophical arguments,
    and a subjective feeling (imagine) that one knows God personally. This is
    easily countered by the subjective experiences of other believers in other
    religions around the globe. So there is a problem with testimonies: yours is
    not the only one; for every testimony about how God helped you kick a drug
    habit, turned you around, or healed you, etc there are others, for how he did
    nothing or the bad habits came back again, or the healing was lost. So the
    question arises, whose testimony are you going to believe? Testimonies are just
    people testifying about their experiences. And no one can say whose are valid,
    and whose are not.

    7.
    Would you become a Scientologist just because a celebrity like Tom
    Cruise says it works for him? Or convert to Islam like Cat Stevens, a famous
    singer from the sixties, who converted to Islam changed his name to Yusuf Islam
    and probably had an experience just like yours. Many famous film stars have
    found that Buddha has changed their lives. Cognitive behavioral therapy used by
    Psychotherapy counselors also helps in producing positive results in changing
    unwanted behavior patterns. Faults, flaws, and weaknesses in our character are
    natural to all humans. In Church these flaws are called sin, which makes you
    feel condemned and in an emotional hypnotic state you give your life to Jesus
    who loves you despite your flaws and can deliver you from your perceived
    sins. You might be changed and healed mentally by your experience but it
    happens in your imagination. That is why it is real to you. It does not mean
    Jesus is really the son of God. At most he was a philosopher and prophet.
    Biblical scholars themselves admit that the God of the Bible is a warlike
    tribal God whose throne was in the heavens (sky), and does not exist outside
    the holy Bible text or the imaginations of believers. Therefore Jesus cannot be
    the Son of God. To you, he might be, but in reality he is not. Just an
    imaginary friend for adults like you had when you were a child.

  4. Matt Heyns Avatar
    Matt Heyns

    Religion exists at two Levels – the Exoteric and the Esoteric. To put it bluntly, the exoteric level is meant for the profane. The exoteric literal level of religious philosophy is pure idiocy. To think that the fantastic Tales of demons and multi-headed monsters and miraculous events of every stripe, such as making the sun stand still, dividing the Red Sea, destroying the world by flood and all the other related nonsense is accepted without hesitation, on the basis of Faith, is astonishing. Nevertheless, it is so.

    The Esoteric Level of religion is a Science that is mathematical, coherent, logical and provable. But this science of Truth is veiled by the masque of mythology. Some are repulsed by this masque and unfortunately turn away and denounce all concepts that support the possible existence of a Creator God Force. The great majority accepts the myth at face value – believe it or not. But fortunately, there are some that choose the path of Investigation, of which you and I are a part.

    Within this vast incomprehensible universe, this planet indeed this solar system is no more than one grain of sand on one beach amongst trillions of other grains amongst trillions of other beaches. This is astronomical fact, not hyperbole – ask any astronomer whether the forgoing statement is true or not and they might say that I have overstated our significance within the universe. Nevertheless, we have the gall to take our Tribal gods that over time have been elevated to National gods and Regional gods (because of the political, financial, and military advances of their adherents) and appoint these fabled deities as the creators and sustainers of all that exist. How ridiculous this is!

  5. Matt Heyns Avatar
    Matt Heyns

    You have seen many questions never truly answered at your church/circe—and proof that the teachings of your minister completely contradict the plain words of a Bible/Venus. Actually, the problem goes much deeper. Each week you are being taught the lessons, teachings and doctrines of a false god. Shocking as it may sound, the deity your minister teaches about is none other than the “god of this world”—packaged as the trinity.

    1. Peter of Rome Avatar
      Peter of Rome

      Kersfees en bome, Jeremia 10

  6. Trippie Trip Avatar
    Trippie Trip

    Matt, toe ek gesê het die vloer is oop, vir jou ook, het ek allermins bedoel jy moet die blad kaap !

    1. Matt Heyns Avatar
      Matt Heyns

      Christianity is a fiction. Jesus had never even heard the name Christianity. It has been imposed on him, he was not the founder of Christianity. Who exactly was the founder of Christianity? One thing is certain, Jesus was not. He never thought about founding a religion, he was simply telling the Jews, “I am your last prophet.” He died on the cross as a Jew.

      Then who founded Christianity?

      You can find Buddhism in the teachings of Gautam Buddha; he was the founder. You can find in the teachings of Mahavira that he was the founder of Jainism. You can find in the teachings of Lao Tzu that he was the founder of Taoism. But it is a very strange thing about Christianity: the founder had no idea at all, was not interested in creating a new religion.

      The man who founded it – you will not believe it – was the Emperor Constantine. The church knows it, but does not allow the public to know it.

      Emperor Constantine of Rome, who headed the Council of Nicea, died as a Christian, but he was baptized only on his deathbed. His whole life he was the high priest of the Sun God religion, which was why he changed the sabbath from Saturday, which was Jesus’ sabbath day, to Sunday. Jews still have their sabbath on Saturday, and Jesus also had lived his whole life believing in the sabbath on Saturday. How did it become Sunday?

      It was Constantine, who was a worshipper of the Sun God. Sunday represents the sun; the followers of the sun have always believed that Sunday is a holy day.

      It was Constantine who was actually the founder of Christianity. He was the decisive factor in the Council of Nicea. It was under his pressure – because he was the emperor of Rome – that the priests voted for the divine personality of Jesus. He made Jesus a divine person. It was his creation, his invention.

      He also changed Jesus’ birthday from January sixth to December twenty-fifth, the day of the solar rebirth. The twenty-fifth of December, which is celebrated all over the world, is not Jesus’ birthday. The whole idea of Christmas is bogus.

      Jesus was born on January sixth, but under Constantine’s influence and power, it was changed to December twenty-fifth, the day of the solar rebirth. It is thought by the sun worshippers that the sun was born on the twenty-fifth of December. The whole of Christianity is living in utter darkness. Their Christmas is bogus – and the church knows it perfectly well but won’t allow people to know about it.

      This is called defending the truth.

      I call it defending lies.

      Constantine saw Jesus as a failed messiah, with himself as the real messiah – and his view was ratified by the famous Christian bishop, Eusebius of Caesarea, who said, “It is as if the religion of Abraham is at last fulfilled, not in Jesus, but in Constantine.”

      Constantine imposed himself as the real last prophet for whom the Jews had been waiting. Of course, the Jews could not crucify the emperor of Rome. And the Christians wanted some royal support; otherwise they were being crucified everywhere. They found a shelter in Constantine, but it was a bargain, purely business. They accepted that Jesus was a failed messiah, and that Constantine was the real messiah.

      But this is not told to the public! Christians are not aware of it. All these scriptures are hidden under the Vatican.

      I say unto you that Christianity is one of the most untruthful religions in the world. It is a disease, a sickness, a pathology, a poison. It has not been helpful to humanity in finding the truth in any sense. It has been trying to propagate lies so continuously that they have almost become truth.

      1. Peter of Rome Avatar
        Peter of Rome

        There is NO reference in the Bible where the Sabbath is changed to the Sunday, no, this is a Roman Catholic, change, to worship the Sun god from Mitzrayim (Egypt)
        The last Law that has to be changed, before The Creator can act on the nations.
        Holy means, Set Apart, “…..come out of her My people…..”
        No command by the Savior to build a circe/church (derived from circle, meaning sun),
        No command by the Savior to celebrate His birth.
        The Sabbath is ETERNAL, meaning for-ever and ever, He was the One that Celebrated, used the Sabbath, before the Law in Exodus, …..man/roman catholic church, changed this law

    2. Matt Heyns Avatar
      Matt Heyns

      Jy is ‘n veer gewig girl. Moenie swaar gewigte uitdaag nie.

      1. Trippie Trip Avatar
        Trippie Trip

        Kennis is mag !

        1. Willem Delport Avatar
          Willem Delport

          Kennis is mag: Dit beteken deur kennis en geleerdheid verkry ‘n mens invloed en mag. Jy het nog die kennis nog die geleerdheid om in ‘n kryt, wat vir swaar gewigte bedoel is, te klim nie. Jy sal beter op jou bike vaar.

          1. Jou Tier Avatar
            Jou Tier

            Willem en jy is ook nog in die kruip stadium so bly maar stil.

          2. gawie maritz Avatar
            gawie maritz

            Hy kry sy doeke by Adult World

          3. Einad Snetraam. Avatar
            Einad Snetraam.

            Willy Telkom,
            Jou bladsweet slaan tot in die Kaap deur. Call it a day. Vir almal se onthalwe.

          4. gawie maritz Avatar
            gawie maritz

            Die man is nou raadop en weet nie hoe nie. Vergewe hom hy weet nie wat hy doen nie.

            Pos raak nou te veel, wonder wat gaan hy doen as die e-tol rekeninge begin inkom?

        2. Matt Heyns Avatar
          Matt Heyns

          Jy beskik nie oor die kennis nie en nog minder die geleerdheid ou girl.

          1. Einad Snetraam. Avatar
            Einad Snetraam.

            Kan ek aanvaar u behou n ‘plak en paste’ BSc Hons in Rekenaarswetenskappe ? Mooi man.

          2. Trippie Trip Avatar
            Trippie Trip

            Ja man, dis om van te kots, ergste is, niemand lees die snert wat hy hier plak nie.

          3. JAVR Avatar
            JAVR

            Dis ‘n ware woord. Die oomblik as mens die naam sien slaan jy oor na die volgende!

          4. Trippie Trip Avatar
            Trippie Trip

            Nice one my ou Matthysie – en jou ondersteuners – standing applause !

          5. Riempies Avatar
            Riempies

            Matt – hulp vir jou hulpeloosheid – Boek kennis is
            net wat ander dink en glo – niks meer of niks minder nie – Wanneer ware kennis
            oorgedra word is wanneer daar konkrete geverivieerde bewyse is.

            Nou daag ek jou uit jou ou domkop – kom lewer
            bewyse dat ons geloof minder waar is as jou deur jou geveriveerde konkete bewyse
            LET WEL nie jou afleidings nie.

      2. gawie maritz Avatar
        gawie maritz

        Ou Matt gaan speel met Harry die Strandloper, julle is ewe oud.

      3. Einad Snetraam. Avatar
        Einad Snetraam.

        Gewis. Genoeg van die ” heavies ” met hul gewigte gehad om my n leeftyd te hou.

    3. Ron Avatar
      Ron

      Die vloer was toe te oop.

    4. Willem Delport Avatar
      Willem Delport

      Hou maar eerder by jou bike en ander hooters.

      1. Einad Snetraam. Avatar
        Einad Snetraam.

        Se die pronkerige Telkom dikgat as hy op sy Harley sit. ( Dan weer behoort die ook seker aan neef op die ‘ familieplaas ‘ ? )

  7. Matt Heyns Avatar
    Matt Heyns

    Hard to believe, but those that have taken the nation to hell are now going to be sent to hell. Payback is a bitch. And nothing can stop this movement because of how the Universe works. Mr. Jew playing God is about to learn an important lesson about how this hologram works, when you violate peoples rights you create an automatic energetic response, and you can’t stop this response no matter how much control you assert, no matter how much deception you apply, no matter how many people you brainwash, mind control, torture and kill, because a greater consciousness will prevail every time. The Jews will be taught again, they are not the masters of the Universe. The treachery of Mr. Jew, once again, has failed. Way to go, once again you proved to be the world’s biggest assholes. Once again the Jews went to far and are going to get bit on their collectivist asses. Good-bye and good riddance say I, into the oven thee shall go and we will use your book as fuel to rid the planet of you. There is a big lesson to be learned by whatever follows, don’t play god, don’t violate people’s rights, don’t take on the task of controlling everything. It’s not your job. It’s not your right to control others. No person has any authority over another. The Universe, life, the earth system works just fine without your demented ideas Mr. Jew. You don’t represent God, you are not God, you aren’t even special, you are a creature of hell, once again it’s time you get a free ride home courtesy of Colt 45. The new party started is the African Defense Party (ADP), reminds me of that other party formed in the collapsing Weimar Republic in the early 1920′s, the National Socialist Workers Party (NSDAP), three of the letters match. History doesn’t repeat itself, but it does rhyme.
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    1. Peter of Rome Avatar
      Peter of Rome

      DIE KERSFEES DILEMMA

      Of watter
      ooreenkoms het die tempel van God met die afgode? Want julle is die tempel van
      die lewende God, soos God gespreek het: Ek sal in hulle woon en onder hulle
      wandel, en Ek sal hulle God wees, en hulle sal vir My ‘n volk wees. Daarom,
      gaan onder hulle uit en sonder julle af, spreek die Here; en raak nie aan wat
      onrein is nie, en Ek sal julle aanneem; en Ek sal vir julle ‘n Vader wees, en
      julle sal vir My seuns en dogters wees, spreek die Here, die Almagtige – 2Kor. 6:16 tot 18.

      En jy mag
      geen gruwel in jou huis inbring nie, sodat jy nie net so onder die banvloek kom
      nie; Jy moet daar heeltemal `n afsku van hê en dit geheel en al as `n gruwel beskou; want dit is onder die
      banvloek – Deut. 7:26.

      Volgens bogenoemde Skrifte
      is die opdrag van Vader God baie duidelik, naamlik: Ons mag geen verbintenis of
      deelname aan afgodery hê nie! Afgodery is volgens God ‘n gruwel. Lees ook Deut.
      12:29 tot 32; Deut. 18:9 tot 14; Jak. 4:4 en 2 Kor. 11:2 tot 4 in die verband. Talle van ons Christelike gebruike en tradisies het
      egter `n afgode oorsprong en verbintenis. Die viering van Kersfees is ‘n
      voorbeeld hiervan.

      Ek wil jou vra om die res
      van hierdie artikel met ‘n oop gemoed te lees. My bedoeling is nie om jou te
      probeer oortuig nie, maar bloot om feitelike inligting te gee. Die Heilige Gees
      is die een wat ons leer en wat die leuen en die waarheid kan skei.

      Talle mense besin nooit oor
      wat hulle glo en hoekom hulle dit glo en waarom hulle doen wat hulle glo. Het
      jy jouself al die volgende gevra? Is Kersfees regtig `n Christenfees? Bring ons
      eer aan God en aan Jesus Christus deur die viering van Kersfees? Wat is die
      oorsprong van die viering en gebruike van Kersfees? Min Christene het nog ooit
      die moeite gedoen om die antwoorde op hierdie vrae te kry. Ons het groot geword
      met die herdenking van die 25 Desember as die geboortedag van Jesus Christus en
      die oorgrote meerderheid aanvaar dat dit volgens die Bybel korrek is en
      derhalwe God se goedkeuring het. Selde word die dag en die wyse wat Kersfees
      gevier word, bevraagteken. Wat is egter die waarheid? Weet jy?

      Al hoe meer wedergebore
      gelowiges is in ‘n tweestryd gewikkel aangaande die viering van Kersfees.
      Terwyl die geboorte van Jesus Christus as ‘n ewige herinnering van God se
      genade en liefde vir die mens dien, is die vraag egter die volgende: Hoe en
      wanneer behoort God se kinders hierdie gebeurtenis te herdenk? Die vraag
      behoort dalk eerder gevra te word of ons dit hoegenaamd moet herdenk? Daar is
      geen opdrag in die Bybel om Kersfees te gedenk nie en die gemeente van
      Handelinge het beslis nie Kersfees gevier nie?

      Die viering van Kersfees is
      nie deur God ingestel nie. Geen Bybelse of geskiedkundige bewys kan gevind word
      dat Christene gedurende die eerste eeu na Christus Kersfees gevier het nie.
      Hierdie gebruik het eers later posgevat toe die Christengeloof met afgodediens
      besoedel geraak het en die Roomse Kerk in die vierde eeu na Christus die 25
      Desember as die geboortedag van Jesus verklaar het.

      Hierdie dag was egter eeue
      voor die geboorte van Jesus ‘n heidenfees waar die songod deur verskillende
      volke en kulture op verskeie wyses vereer en aanbid is. In die tyd van Jesus en
      die disippels het die Romeinse Ryk die fees van Saturnalia gevier waartydnes
      die geboorte van die songod op die 25 Desember herdenk was, sowel as die songod
      se terugkeer wat gevier was met die begin van die somer in die Noordelike
      halfrond.

      Geskiedkundig en Bybels is
      dit ‘n feit dat die viering van Kersfees op die 25 Desember, asook die meeste
      gebruike en tradisies wat daarmee gepaardgaan, niks met Jesus Christus te doen het
      nie. Die oorsprong is afgodery wat voor die geboorte van Jesus Christus beoefen
      was en wat jare na die geboorte, kruisiging, opstanding en hemelvaart van Jesus
      `n Christenkarakter deur hoofsaaklik die Roomse Kerk gegee is. Die viering van
      Kersfees is ‘n mengsel van Bybelse waarhede en afgodery. Is dit regtig moontlik
      om God op so ‘n wyse te vereer en te aanbid?

      Elkeen wat erns met God het,
      en wat niks wil doen om onder God se wil uit te beweeg nie, staan voor ‘n
      Kersfeesdilemma en moet ‘n keuse maak. Jy kan kies om voort te gaan met die
      viering van Kersfees omrede jou bedoelings suiwer is en jy probeer om dit ‘n
      ware Christusfees te maak deur Jesus Christus terug te sit in Kersfees. Jy kan
      standpunt inneem dat jy jou nie steur aan die heidense verbintenis wat hierdie
      dag met sy gebruike het nie. Jy kan kies om Skrifte soos 2 Kor. 2:16 tot 18 en
      Deut. 7:26 te ignoreer. Die vraag wat jy ook sal moet beantwoord is of Jesus
      ooit in Kersfees was? Wat sit jy terug in Kersfees en wat haal jy uit Kersfees?
      Jy kan opreg wees in jou bedoelings, maar jy kan opreg verkeerd wees.

      Die ander keuse is om die
      viering van Kersfees geheel en al te staak. Dan is die vraag: Wat gaan jy, jou
      gesin, familie en vriende op hierdie dag doen? Die viering van Kersfees op die
      25 Desember gaan op ons kalender bly. Meer as 2 biljoen mense vier dit jaarliks.
      As gelowiges wil ons tog die geboorte van Jesus herdenk, want ons is dankbaar
      dat God ons so liefgehad het dat Hy sy geliefde Seun gestuur het as Redder van
      die wat verlore gaan. Die vraag is hoe en wanneer herdenk ons Jesus se geboorte
      en of ons dit hoegenaamd moet herdenk? Wat
      verwag God van ons?

      Talle mense wil nie die waarheid aangaande die
      oorsprong van Kersfees hoor nie. Jare se tradisionele viering van Kersfees het
      hulle vir die waarheid verblind. Onwilligheid om te glo dat ons voorvaders en geestelike
      leiers kon fouteer, is vir baie genoegsame rede om voort te gaan met die
      viering van Kersfees.

      Eie siening, emosies en redenasies moet egter
      nooit `n plaasvervanger vir die waarheid word nie. In heilige ontsag vir God en
      Sy Woord moet ons strewe na die waarheid. Hierdie waarheid is slegs in God se
      Woord te vinde. Daarom moet ons versigtig wees vir die oorlewering en
      leerstellings van mense (Kol. 2:8; Matt. 15:1 tot 9) en slegs die Woord van God
      gebruik om ons in die waarheid te onderrig (2 Tim. 3:16 en 17).

      Wat ook al jou keuse aangaande die viering van
      Kersfees is; van een ding moet jy en ek seker maak en dit is dat ons deur God
      geregverdig verklaar word en dat ons nie ons eie geregtigheid oprig nie (Rom.
      10:2 en 3). Niemand van ons kan dit bekostig om onsself voor God te probeer
      regverdig nie. Ons moet weet en uitvind wat God se wil is en dit doen. Dan
      behaag ons God en nie mense of onsself nie. Indien ons verkies om onsself of mense te behaag, is ons
      nie dienaars van God nie (Gal 1:10). Laat ons kennis neem van Jesus se woorde
      in Luk. 6:46: En wat noem julle My: Here,
      Here! En doen nie wat Ek sê nie?

      Indien ons iets tot
      eer van God doen, soos om `n fees vir Hom te hou, of ‘n gebeurtenis te herdenk,
      dan behoort ons die opdrag in God se Woord te vind, sodat ons die Woord kan
      gebruik om ons te onderrig hoe om dit te doen. Indien dit nie in die Woord is
      nie, is dit nie van God nie.

      Al die feeste wat
      deur God ingestel is en wat ondermeer in Levitikus 23 en ander Skrifte gelys
      word, bevat die betekenis van die fees, asook die riglyne hoe om die fees te
      vier en die gebeurtenis te gedenk. Kersfees is nie een van die sewe feeste wat
      deur God ingestel is nie. Die Bybel leer ons nie om Jesus se geboorte by wyse
      van ‘n fees te herdenk nie. Wat die Bybel ons wel leer is om Jesus Christus se
      kruisiging en opstanding te herdenk.

      Hoewel die
      belangrikheid van die geboorte van Jesus nooit ontken moet word nie, kan ons
      egter nie toelaat dat dit Jesus se werklike doel op aarde oorskadu nie. Jesus
      Christus het gekom om as die Eenmalige offer vir ons sondes te sterf. Hy het
      gekom as die weg van versoening van die mens met God. Dit is wat die Bybel ons
      leer om te herdenk by wyse van die Paasfees. Die hoogtepunt en belangrikheid
      van Jesus se bediening op aarde was Sy sterwe aan die kruis en opstanding uit
      die dode.

      Noukeurige studie
      van die nuwe testament openbaar dat Jesus, asook die disippels in die eerste
      eeu na Jesus se hemelvaart, steeds die verskillende feeste volgens Levitikus 23
      gehou het. Hulle het niks bygevoeg of weggelaat nie. In die Bybel is daar geen
      verwysing na Kersfees of ‘n fees wat enigsins verbind kan word met die viering
      van Kersfees nie. Waarom vier ons dan Kersfees? Dink ons werklik ons vereer God
      op dié wyse of verwag ons dat God ‘n behae moet hê in ‘n mensgemaakte poging
      wat met afgodery besmet is?

      1. Henkst Avatar
        Henkst

        Eksodus 3:14 Toe sê God [Jahwe] vir Moses: “Ek is wat Ek is. Jy moet vir die Israeliete sê: ‘Ek is’ het my na julle toe gestuur.”
        Die naam “Ek is wat Ek is”, kom van die Egiptiese god Ra se tempel inskripsie “Nuk Pu Nuk’, of in Afrikaans ‘Ek is wat ek is’.

  8. Grassie Avatar
    Grassie

    Ek wonder wat die uitslag van daardie proefneming sal wees as dit hier by ons uitgevoer word. Ek dink ons stresvlakke verskil van die Duitsers s’n. Mat en Willem D – los vir Trippie uit. Sy het meer karakter en gesonde verstand as jul albei saam. Julle lewer byna nooit kommentaar op berigte nie, julle gebruik net die geleentheid om mense wat in die Drie-enige God glo om te krap.

  9. Vrolik Witbooi Avatar
    Vrolik Witbooi

    Fifty two pesent is gristene ? Non christjens maak die res op. En dis ok net 80 mense wie mag deel neem aan die power prayer proef steek ? Ai !
    `n Anner ou met `n wit jas het die selle experiment gedoen ma hy’t net `n sakkie aap twak aan al die deelnemers verskaf. Selle resultaat – amal baie kalm en tevrede – selfs toe hy `n Bob Marley plaat agter toe speel en amal die duiwel hoor.

    Ek sê, PRAAC, oem Landman moet nou sy beurt weer kry.

    Hello krap, wat kyk djy !

  10. DOODLOOPSTRAAT Avatar
    DOODLOOPSTRAAT

    Mens kan nie verkeerde wee “reg bid” nie….al klink dit hoe edel….vra maar vir Piet Retief.

    Jy kan byvoorbeeld nie n bastertjie in die lewe bring en bid dat God jou wanvrug sal seen nie.

    1. Einad Snetraam. Avatar
      Einad Snetraam.

      Jou sotlike kommentaar herinner aan hoekom daar met verloop van tyd meeste kerke vandag eerder as gragte daar uitsien. U bede en seenwense dieselfde as die poepol ds hier onder: –
      DIE BURGER ( 3 / 12 / 2013 ) – 50 Jaar Gelede : –
      ‘ Woordvoerders van verskeie lugdienste het hul verbasing uitgespreek oor n pleidooi ( sien bede ) deur ds. D.F.B. de Beer, sekretaris vd NG Kerk se Kommissie vir Openbare Sedelikheid, dat ons vliegtuie nie op Sondae moet vertrek nie. Terwyl die vliegtuie elke week ses dae vlieg, is DIE dag waarop hulle op die grond gehou word ‘……. ( Yip…objekte het ook siele ! )
      Insgelyks sal u nasate oor 50-jaar seker ook maar moet kopskud met verwysing na u begrip ( bede en seen ) van ‘ wanvrug .’
      U naam n profetiese aanduiding oor waar / hoekom die Kerk hom tans bevind waar hy is.

      1. DOODLOOPSTRAAT Avatar
        DOODLOOPSTRAAT

        Ene geelbek Snotterpraamtje is blykbaar persoonlik gekrenk deur my laasgenoemde opmerking.

        Sover jou verwysing “Laat die kinders na my toe kom…” kwotasie betref – wel kom ons kyk na die kwalifiserende aard van hierdie woorde.

        MATT 15:24

        En n Kaananiet het Jesus gesmeek om haar kind te genees wat van n bose gees besete was. Maar Jesus antwoord haar nie n woord nie – hy ignoreer haar.

        En Jesus se dissipels kom na hom en se Jaag die Kanaaniet weg want sy roep agter ons aan. Jesus se toe aan die Kanaaniet : Ek is net gestuur na die verlore skape van Israel wat in verstrooing is, nie vir julle Kananite nie (insluitende jou kind). Dit is nie mooi om die kos vir die honde te gooi nie (Kanaan = Canine = dog = hond)

        Nou Snotterpraamtje,… watter gedeelte van hierdie woorde van Jesus verstaan jy nie??

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goryVmTYiW8

        1. gawie maritz Avatar
          gawie maritz

          DOODLOOPSTRAAT Ek is net gestuur na die verlore skape van Israel wat in verstrooiing is. Wat lees of verstaan jy hierin?

          1. DOODLOOPSTRAAT Avatar
            DOODLOOPSTRAAT

            Net wat dit se….hoekom?

          2. gawie maritz Avatar
            gawie maritz

            Omrede jy nie weet wat dit sê nie my vriend.

          3. DOODLOOPSTRAAT Avatar
            DOODLOOPSTRAAT

            Nou wat se dit – TOE….se!

            Ek sit op die punt van my alie – so moet my nou nie teleur stel nie ou Gawie.

          4. gawie maritz Avatar
            gawie maritz

            Jy is in jou eie doodloopstraat my vriend.

          5. DOODLOOPSTRAAT Avatar
            DOODLOOPSTRAAT

            Gawie my alie raak nou seer…..ek is die ene ore as jy vir ons wil se wat Jesus se woorde aan die Kanaaniet beteken

            EK IS NET GESTUUR NA DIE VERLORE SKAPE VAN DIE 12 STAMME VAN ISRAEL WAT IN VERSTROOIING IS

            ONS WAG …NOG STEED!!

          6. gas Avatar
            gas

            Dis biltong-tyd vir jou met ‘n stomp mes. Jy gaan lank wag vir hom.

          7. gawie maritz Avatar
            gawie maritz

            Willy vir jou inligting is biltong tyd in die winter. Pos aflewering is egter vir jou ‘n Maandag tot Vrydag werkie.

          8. gas Avatar
            gas

            Wie is die Willy, Frikkie?

          9. gawie maritz Avatar
            gawie maritz

            Jy

          10. gas Avatar
            gas

            Duidelik praat jy met jouself!

          11. gawie maritz Avatar
            gawie maritz

            Ben du Toit moontlik Wim Bardenorst?????

          12. gas Avatar
            gas

            Get a life Frikkie!

          13. VerkeerdeVoet Avatar
            VerkeerdeVoet

            Hou op om te bespiegel oor wie Frikkie is en wie nie. Julle bespiegelinge is ver uit die kol!

          14. gawie maritz Avatar
            gawie maritz

            OK wie is Ben du Toit?

          15. gawie maritz Avatar
            gawie maritz

            Ek is net gestuur na die verlore skape van Israel wat in verstrooiing is.
            Wag vir jou verduideliking. Jy het dit gesê en kan dit nie verduidelik nie. Nou probeer jy die vraag na my toe swaai. Jy is nie met jou kind te doen nie.

          16. gawie maritz Avatar
            gawie maritz

            Ek is net gestuur na die verlore skape van Israel wat in verstrooiing is
            Jou stelling.
            Ek het gevra wat dit beteken. Kan jy my antwoord of nie. Moet nie die vraag ontwyk nie. Jou verstand is ook in ‘n doodloopstraat.

          17. gas Avatar
            gas

            Sien frikkie noem almal sy vriend? Gawe Frikkie die skerpioen.

          18. gawie maritz Avatar
            gawie maritz

            Maat Willy die posman gaan kyk na Postman Pad op kanaal 302 DSTV.

          19. VerkeerdeVoet Avatar
            VerkeerdeVoet

            As jy so aanhou gaan jy weldra jou alie sien en jou op die vloer bevind

        2. VerkeerdeVoet Avatar
          VerkeerdeVoet

          SKRIK! Al skrik jy net wakker!

          1. DOODLOOPSTRAAT Avatar
            DOODLOOPSTRAAT

            Skrik vir wat nogal….vir jou atleetvoet seker NE!!!

            NEXT!!!

          2. VerkeerdeVoet Avatar
            VerkeerdeVoet

            Skrik dan vir jou vrot brein

          3. gas Avatar
            gas

            Jy klink net soos gawie maritz frikkie.

          4. gawie maritz Avatar
            gawie maritz

            En jy klink soos WIlly Posman

          5. gas Avatar
            gas

            Toe nie! Jy verseker is uitgevang 😉 Jou styl en mentaliteit is so platvloers. Dit ruik so jy.

          6. gawie maritz Avatar
            gawie maritz

            Uit gevang waarmee Willy

          7. gas Avatar
            gas

            Willy? Bwahahaha! In your dreams boetman!! Jy’s “skerp” skuuus, het “vergeet.” Lees jy nie??? Jou styl en mentaliteit is so platvloers. Dis jou kenmerk.

          8. VerkeerdeVoet Avatar
            VerkeerdeVoet

            Mat Heyns, Matt Heyns en Matt Heyns SAL DIE REGTE MATT HEYNS OPSTAAN?

          9. gas Avatar
            gas

            Gaan stap ‘n draaitjie. Jammer, hier het jy nie ‘n voet om op te staan nie. Jy begin soos Heyns klink 😉

          10. VerkeerdeVoet Avatar
            VerkeerdeVoet

            LOL, julle maak ons deurmekaar 😉

          11. gas Avatar
            gas

            Om te ondersky of te onderskei, dit is die vraag.

          12. VerkeerdeVoet Avatar
            VerkeerdeVoet

            Klim asb af van my ander voet, want jy staan op hom.

          13. Einad Snetraam. Avatar
            Einad Snetraam.

            “Next” ! is op die spyskaart as jy my eers bo antw. Waarmee het ons hier te doen? n Eenogige Bible Puncher met n ooraktiewe skildklier?
            Vreet eers wat in jou bord is alvorens ons begin rondloer.

        3. Einad Snetraam. Avatar
          Einad Snetraam.

          Soos ons geagte ds vir die welsyn van vliegtuie bid, lees u toe gerieflik vers 28 mis ?

          1. DOODLOOPSTRAAT Avatar
            DOODLOOPSTRAAT

            NOT EVEN CLOSE!!!!

            SAGARIA 14:21

            En God spreek deur die profeet Sagaria. In daardie dag (met die wederkoms) sal daar geen KANAANIET in die huise van die Here meer wees nie.

            Dit smaak my Jesus bevestig hierdie profetiese uitspraak tot die letter….OUCH…. EISH…… HaaaAU

            NEXT!!!

          2. Einad Snetraam. Avatar
            Einad Snetraam.

            Spring nie springhaas-agtig van Matt na Sagtemaria nie.( sien….ek kan selfs dit hier inlees as ek wou.) Herhaal nou eers Matt 15 vs 28 hier verbatim aan asb. U het immers self hierdie perdjie opgesaal.
            PS
            En dan moet ek u vra. As die Boeing Sondae oorkom, gooi u stof op u hoof ?

          3. DOODLOOPSTRAAT Avatar
            DOODLOOPSTRAAT

            Jy eil dat dit kwyl geelbek…

            Jesus het soortgelyk bose geeste in varke gejaag – dit was bloot n manier om ontsale te raak van die Kanaaniet. Vers 28 is geensins n ommekeer in Jesus se woorde dat hy nie vir die Kanaaniet gekom het nie. En so verklaar die profeet Sagaria juis.

            NICE TRY…..NEXT!!!

          4. Einad Snetraam. Avatar
            Einad Snetraam.

            Om “ontsale” te raak van Daantjie Maartens begin die spelling neuk !? Kom ou Daneman verlos u van u dilemma: – Matt 15 vs 28 lees: –
            ” Mevrou ( dis nou jou Kanaaniet ) …se Jesus vir haar, ” jou geloof is groot. Jou wens word vervul. ”
            OOPSIE ! Jesus komplimenteer die Kanaaniet = canine = dog = hond ??! Wil voorkom die Boeing het tussen u ore geland.
            N E X T ?!!!!!!

          5. DOODLOOPSTRAAT Avatar
            DOODLOOPSTRAAT

            NOT QUITE

            SAGARIA 14:21

            En God spreek deur die profeet Sagaria. In daardie dag (met die wederkoms) sal daar geen KANAANIET in die huise van die Here meer wees nie.

            Dit smaak my Jesus bevestig hierdie profetiese uitspraak tot die letter….OUCH…. EISH…… HaaaAU

            NEXT!!!

          6. VerkeerdeVoet Avatar
            VerkeerdeVoet

            Kry vir jou DOODLOOPSTRAAT.

          7. DOODLOOPSTRAAT Avatar
            DOODLOOPSTRAAT

            Kry WAT???

            ATLEETVOET??

          8. VerkeerdeVoet Avatar
            VerkeerdeVoet

            Kry vir jou vrotbrein DOODLOOPSTRAAT. Jou straat het inderdaad doodgeloop.

          9. DOODLOOPSTRAAT Avatar
            DOODLOOPSTRAAT

            NOT EVEN CLOSE……

          10. DOODLOOPSTRAAT Avatar
            DOODLOOPSTRAAT

            NOT QUITE

            SAGARIA 14:21

            En God spreek deur die profeet Sagaria. In daardie dag (met die wederkoms) sal daar geen KANAANIET in die huise van die Here meer wees nie.

            Dit smaak my Jesus bevestig hierdie profetiese uitspraak tot die letter….OUCH…. EISH…… HaaaAU

            NEXT!!!

          11. Einad Snetraam. Avatar
            Einad Snetraam.

            Klink meer die uwe suip Magau met ys.

  11. Matt Heyns Avatar
    Matt Heyns

    I say unto you Christianity is one of the most untruthful religions in the world. It is a disease, a sickness, a pathology and a poison. It has not been helpful to humanity in finding the truth in any sense. It has been trying to propagate lies so continuously that they have almost become truth.

  12. Matt Heyns Avatar
    Matt Heyns

    Tripple: Hoekom vereer jy die Egiptiese god Amen ?

  13. Albert Speer Avatar
    Albert Speer

    Tripple: I say unto you Christianity is one of the most untruthful religions in the world. It is a disease, a sickness, a pathology and a poison. It has not been helpful to humanity in finding the truth in any sense. It has been trying to propagate lies so continuously that they have almost become truth.

    1. Henkst Avatar
      Henkst

      Ons het die ‘gewenste’ verlede van die Jode aangeneem en dit ons eie gemaak. Dit is die basiese oorsaak van al ons probleme.

  14. Albert Speer Avatar
    Albert Speer

    Tripple: Waar in jou Bybel/Venus word beweer jou god is ‘n drie-enige god?

  15. Ben du Toit Avatar
    Ben du Toit

    “A lot of the stories in the Old Testament are in fact plagiarized material, particularly from the rich mythical heritage of the Sumerians – the inventors of writing. The story of Noah and theflood story, the creation of man out of clay, Cain and Abel, the gardens of Eden, the tree of knowledge, creation of Eve from Adams rib, and numerous other myths, like the throwing of Moses after he was born in the river, are all but stories found recorded on Sumerian clay tablets dating 5000 years back in time”

    1. Matt Heyns Avatar
      Matt Heyns

      The reason Christians will not accept that their gospel is in crisis is because they will have to admit
      publicly that it is all a fantasy based on faith, emotion, and feelings. In
      fact the most illiterate (uneducated) continents in the world are the most
      religious. Africa and Latin America head the list as they have the least
      atheists and non religious in the world. In other words most Christians are
      illiterate and therefore unable to logically analyze things. The rest are
      totally brain washed as a result of the propaganda and indoctrination they have
      had to endure since childhood when they were illiterate because; if you trust
      the good news gospel you need blind faith like a child as Jesus told us. It’s
      always the same story.

      1. Lag vir grootbbek Matt n slag Avatar
        Lag vir grootbbek Matt n slag

        Matt jou ou stories oor die Christelike geloof is
        nou rerig al n uitgesuigde lemoen, kom wees n man nie n muis nie en begin vir
        ons bewyse bring van jou ware god. Sit jou mond n slag waar jou grootbek
        is.

        1. Trippie Trip Avatar
          Trippie Trip

          Sy ware god is die egiptiese gode – ‘n hele spul.

          1. Deon Brand Avatar
            Deon Brand

            Hoekom vereer jy die Egiptiese god Amen. ‘n mitiese god Jesus en ‘n valse drie-enige god wat jy God noem.

          2. Trippie Trip Avatar
            Trippie Trip

            Jou weergawe, verwys na my repliek heelonder. My God is die ENIGSTE, WARE LEWENDE GOD !

            SO IS DIT !

          3. gas Avatar
            gas

            Ja Brand… Jy verkoop seker polisse vir ‘n lewe|. Jou snert wat jy hier kwytraak is vuurmaakhout vir die hel. As jy verdoem is, moet nie ander saam met jou probeer neem nie.

          4. Deon Brand Avatar
            Deon Brand

            Die produkte van engele fabrieke het jou in hulle kloue. Hulle lieg vir jou asof dit gedruk staan.

          5. jakkals Avatar
            jakkals

            Matt die vrymesselaar, duiwel aanbidder op sy
            beste. Kom verras ons met ietsie beter, soos bv. dat jy nie n vrymesselaar is
            nie en nie die duiwel aanbid nie.

          6. Matt Heyns Avatar
            Matt Heyns

            Praag haal my kommentaar af maar ek was nog nooit ‘n vry messelaar nie. Ek vereer ook nie antieke gode (Amen) soos Trpple nie.

          7. Matt Heyns Avatar
            Matt Heyns

            What has become of the mighty gods of the ancient Near East? What happened to Anu and Enlil, what has become of the beautiful Goddess “Inanna” Ishtar … The one god, Aten, and what happened to the omnipotentAmun/Amen of Thebes? … AMEN, whose name is still echoing in every house of prayers of all organized religions on earth?

            How come we fail to recall any of the magnificent epics of Sumer or the amazing mythology of Egypt whereas our kids know the stories of the Hebrew Bible by heart?

          8. VerkeerdeVoet Avatar
            VerkeerdeVoet

            Jy lees die verkeerde bybel Matt Heyns.

          9. Matt Heyns Avatar
            Matt Heyns

            Now that we know that religion, with colossal temples andziggurats and creation myths, first sprouted along the fertile banks of the Tigris and Euphrates in Mesopotamia and the river Nile in Egypt, how could we explain the dominance of Judaism, some tribal cult which supposedly originated (centuries later in time) amid the arid terrains of Canaan, over the Egyptian and Sumerian once thriving theologies?

            Actually Judaism didn’t, surpass the influence of the Egyptian nor the Sumerian theology; this was a formidably hard task for any nomadic community to aspire for, instead Judaism did it the easy way.

            As the antiquity era was approaching an end, and as the hieroglyphic and the cuneiform writings were getting extinct, the Hebrews simply stole the Egyptian and the Sumerian thunder. The Hebrew scribes, whom I presume knew what they were doing, copycatted the famous myths/epics of ancient Egypt and Sumeria, in what could be the world’s first and yet the biggest copyright infringement, and stuffed their Bible with them.

          10. jakkals Avatar
            jakkals

            Kom kom Matt ontken dat jy n vrymesselaar is wat die duiwel aanbid!!!!

          11. Gas Avatar
            Gas

            Wanneer iemand nuwe kommentaar lewer verskyn: “One other person is typing…”

            Wanneer Matt Heyns begin tik, verskyn daar: “One other person is copy and pasting from google…”

          12. JAVR Avatar
            JAVR

            SOOOOOO waar

          13. gawie maritz Avatar
            gawie maritz

            Ben du Toit is baie slim of wat se ek gas?

          14. gas Avatar
            gas

            Sien jy jaag weer jou eie stert Frikkie?

          15. gawie maritz Avatar
            gawie maritz

            Ben of is jy Wim?

          16. Gas Avatar
            Gas

            Jy is blykbaar te dom om dit self uit te werk.

          17. VerkeerdeVoet Avatar
            VerkeerdeVoet

            Nou kom copy en paste jy dit ook nog.

          18. Matt Heyns Avatar
            Matt Heyns

            ‘n Bybel is nie ‘n entiteit nie. Daar is hope Bybels om in te lees, gode en here om van te kus en keur. Maar ek kry geen verwysing na ‘n drie-enige god nie. Hoekom koop jy jpu sondes af op SON dae

          19. VerkeerdeVoet Avatar
            VerkeerdeVoet

            Baie vreemd dat jy bybel met ‘n hoofletter skryf.

          20. jakkals Avatar
            jakkals

            Matt is vrymesselaar wat die duiwel aanbid.

            Kom Matt ontken dit!

          21. Matt Heyns Avatar
            Matt Heyns

            Die meeste gelowiges weet nog nie maar: Religious scriptures (including the Quran, Torah and Bible) are a Registry of Astronomical phenomena written in a Mythological format. The evolution of our modern Religious Concepts began with Astronomy, and evolved through Mythology and Astrology into modern religion. Many of the Hebrew Myth Concepts are traceable to Ancient Egypt and Mesopotamia. Jesus Christ, the Sun God, is a Cosmic Myth – on a par with Osiris, Horus, Samson, Adonis, Moses, Abraham, Solomon, Noah, Krishna, Mithra, Quetzalcoatl and many other solar Demigods. Evidence clearly shows that the 12 Apostles were symbols of Zodiac Signs, and that Jesus Christ symbolized a Sun God and in some aspects a Moon God. It is clear that the Tales within the bible are Allegorical depictions of the interactions between elements of the Cosmos.

          22. Matt Heyns Avatar
            Matt Heyns

            Ek is nie ‘n vrymesselaarmesselaar nie.

          23. Gas Avatar
            Gas

            No wat dan? ‘n Troffel in die hangkas dalk?

          24. Matt Heyns Avatar
            Matt Heyns

            Bybel se ander naam is Venus. Sy/hy was die klein dogter van die son god Apollo. Sy/hy was seks behep.

          25. VerkeerdeVoet Avatar
            VerkeerdeVoet

            Glo wat jy wil maar moenie jou kots hier kom kwytraak nie!

          26. gas Avatar
            gas

            Matt… Van jou soos sê onse Here Jesus Christus: Hoe groot is die duisternis in jou, wanneer jy dink die duisternis is die lig. Dat jy Skrif afmaak as ‘n leuen en fabels as heilig verklaar wys met watse gees jy oordeel. Jy is verseker gevul met ‘n leuen-gees.

          27. Matt Heyns Avatar
            Matt Heyns

            Ek hoef nie onkundige mense in heidense tempels (kerke/geboue/circe) op SON dae om die bos te lei vir ‘n inkomste nie.

          28. Gas Avatar
            Gas

            Ag Matt man…, jy kan nie eers water om ‘n bos lei met ‘n tuinslang nie, laat staan nog vir ander (Hier).

          29. Riempies Avatar
            Riempies

            Natuurlik nie – die duiwel sorg vir sy kinders.

          30. Matt Heyns Avatar
            Matt Heyns

            Hier is jou Here Jesus Christus: Religious scriptures (including the Quran, Torah and Bible) are a Registry of Astronomical phenomena written in a Mythological format. The evolution of our modern Religious Concepts began with Astronomy, and evolved through Mythology and Astrology into modern religion. Many of the Hebrew Myth Concepts are traceable to Ancient Egypt and Mesopotamia. Jesus Christ, the Sun God, is a Cosmic Myth – on a par with Osirus, Horus, Samson, Adonis, Moses, Abraham, Solomon, Noah, Krishna, Mithra, Quetzalcoatl and many other solar Demigods. Evidence clearly shows that the 12 Apostles were symbols of Zodiac Signs, and that Jesus Christ symbolized a Sun God and in some aspects a Moon God. It is clear that the Tales within the bible are Allegorical depictions of the interactions between elements of the Cosmos.

          31. jakkals Avatar
            jakkals

            Op vakansie wat vir my lyk jou god nie kan bekostig nie hahaha

          32. Gas Avatar
            Gas

            “hahahaha?” daar is geen geluk is daardie “gelag” van jou nie. “Met vakansie” is die regte uitdrukking. ‘n Mens wat hom aanmatig en uitermate belese hou en nie is nie, struikel gereeld in die openbaar. 😉 Matt, jou trotse nek gaan nog knak soos ‘n nat takkie.

          33. VerkeerdeVoet Avatar
            VerkeerdeVoet

            ‘n Nat takkie, nee veel eerder ‘n uitgedroogte verottende tak.

          34. VerkeerdeVoet Avatar
            VerkeerdeVoet

            Klink meer na ‘n geweeklaag. Gas. Hahahahahaha. irriterend inderdaad.

          35. Deon Brand Avatar
            Deon Brand

            Jy vereer een van hulle naamlik Amen.

          36. Trippie Trip Avatar
            Trippie Trip

            My GOD laat hom NIE bespot !

          37. Dan Pienaar Avatar
            Dan Pienaar

            Amen is ‘n antieke god wat deur jou vereer word. Is dit dalk jou god?

          38. Trippie Trip Avatar
            Trippie Trip

            Matt – jy het nog GEEN argument gewen nie – of enigiemand anders oortuig nie – jy copy en paste nog die heeltyd – TSK !

            Hier is die ENIGSTE WARE EN LEWENDE WOORD !

          39. Matt Heyns Avatar
            Matt Heyns

            It is therefore, perhaps, quite shocking that the biblical statements that purport to support the reversal of the most certain of laws – that the dead stay dead – amounts to less than 600 words. The “conquest of death”, it would seem, rests upon the evidence of rather fewer words than the text of a McDonald’s Happy Meal menu!

          40. VerkeerdeVoet Avatar
            VerkeerdeVoet

            Krygspraktisyn:
            ( Moet nie jou perels voor die varke werp nie ).

          41. Matt Heyns Avatar
            Matt Heyns

            AMEN is jou god!

          42. Trippie Trip Avatar
            Trippie Trip

            Matt, waarom inteken as Deon Brand ? Jy het net soveel name as jou afgode.

          43. gas Avatar
            gas

            Hy smokkel sy eie kop!

          44. JAVR Avatar
            JAVR

            Kom ons bid vir genade en verdraagsaamheid want as ons bid vir krag kek hy!

          45. Matt Heyns Avatar
            Matt Heyns

            Tripple: Jy het ook ‘n Egiptiese god wat jy vereer. Sy naam is AMEN.

          46. Riempies Avatar
            Riempies

            Matt jou pilletjies werk al – maar nog nie heeltemal nie wag nog so n klein bietjie tot hulle heeltemal werk dan gaan almal lekker met jou gesels.

        2. Matt Heyns Avatar
          Matt Heyns

          Is jy bewus daarvan “The son of Man” is Titus Flavius en jou “Verlosser” is Konstantyn vir twee duisend jare al?

          1. gas Avatar
            gas

            Jou fabels is niks anders as: FABELS. Julle wat maak asof julle alles weet, weet duidelik blou-all. Kennis sonder NUT is nutteloos. Waarom mors jy ons tyd met die bog?

          2. Lag vir grootbbek Matt n slag Avatar
            Lag vir grootbbek Matt n slag

            Matt is jy bewus daarvan dat jy onder n fatale wanpersie van jou godheid verkeer?

          3. VerkeerdeVoet Avatar
            VerkeerdeVoet

            Wanpersepsie is fatal slegs vir mense soos jy Matt Heyns.Gun hierdie mense hul Geloof en liefde vir hul God. Jy sal brand in die ewige vuur, saam met jou pel satan.

          4. Adriaan Basson Avatar
            Adriaan Basson

            Waar is jou historiese bewyse?

          5. gas Avatar
            gas

            Gesels jy met jou Matt-ego? 😉

          6. Matt heyns Avatar
            Matt heyns

            Motiveer met historiese bewyse en ek sal weer dink. Ek vereer nie ‘n godheid nie. Of daar is ‘n god of daar is nie ‘n god nie. Weet jy dalk?

          7. VerkeerdeVoet Avatar
            VerkeerdeVoet

            Matt die soekende?

          8. Riempies Avatar
            Riempies

            Nee nie soekende nie – hy en sy meester die duiwel het mekaar alreeds baie lankal gevind.

          9. Riempies Avatar
            Riempies

            Matt dit is die naaste wat jy kan kom om te erken dat jy n Vrymesselaar is wat die duiwel aanbid. Vir my – en ek glo die ander wat hier deelgeneem het is dit genoeg.

          10. Matt Heyns Avatar
            Matt Heyns

            Ek was nog nooit ‘n bokryer nie. Ek vermoed jy en die duiwel is boesem vriende/vriendinne.

          11. gawie maritz Avatar
            gawie maritz

            Wim Bardenorst jy is ‘n bokryer

          12. Riempies Avatar
            Riempies

            Ek het nie gevra of jy n bokryer was nie het ek? Iemand anders het jou gevra of jy n vrymesselaar en n duiwelaanbidder is. . Ek skat dit is wat jy katagories moet ontken of erken.

          13. Einad Snetraam. Avatar
            Einad Snetraam.

            Wat dan van ou bokghnaaaier….dit doen u’t wel ?

        3. Matt Heyns Avatar
          Matt Heyns

          It is not the peripatetic “ministry” of Jesus, with all its supposed healings, wise teachings and astounding miracles, that is the bedrock of the Christian religion. Rather, it is the extraordinary melodrama of his death and resurrection, sometimes expressed as the “promise of the stauro” or in the pithy aphorism,”No Resurrection, No Christianity.”

          It is therefore, perhaps, quite shocking that the biblical statements that purport to support the reversal of the most certain of laws – that the dead stay dead – amounts, in toto, to less than 600 words. The “conquest of death”, it would seem, rests upon the evidence of rather fewer words than the text of a McDonald’s Happy Meal menu!

        4. Einad Snetraam. Avatar
          Einad Snetraam.

          Met respek. Speel nie graag Pro Amico adv vir my drinkebroer nie. FlattBoy is immers n agnostikus. n Verduideliking oor sy ” ware god ” word dus hiermee genullifeer.

          1. Gert Roodt Avatar
            Gert Roodt

            It was Constantine, who was a worshipper of the Sun God. Sunday represents the sun; the followers of the sun have always believed that Sunday is a holy day.

            It was Constantine who was actually the founder of Christianity. He was the decisive factor in the Council of Nicea. It was under his pressure – because he was the emperor of Rome – that the priests voted for the divine personality of Jesus. He made Jesus a divine person. It was his creation, his invention.

            He also changed Jesus’ birthday from January sixth to December twenty-fifth, the day of the solar rebirth. The twenty-fifth of December, which is celebrated all over the world, is not Jesus’ birthday. The whole idea of Christmas is bogus.

        5. Matt Heyns Avatar
          Matt Heyns

          Ek kan niks met jou bewering doen nie want ek weet nie wat jy probeer tuis bring nie. Daar is baie gode en here. Wie is jou voorkeur god of here?

          1. Riempies Avatar
            Riempies

            Lafhartige dom MUIS!

      2. Kalium_Chloraat Avatar
        Kalium_Chloraat

        Matt, is dit waarom jy so baie aliasse het, sodat jy met jouself kan praat?

  16. Albert Speer Avatar
    Albert Speer

    Do you really think it all began with a sanctimonious Jewish wonder-worker, strolling about 1st century Palestine? Prepare to be enlightened.

    Liewe Jesus – The Imaginary Friend

    Christianity was the ultimate product of religious syncretism in the ancient world. Its emergence owed nothing to a holy carpenter. There were many Jesuses but the fable was a cultural construct.

    The nativity yarn is a concatenation of nonsense. The genealogies of Jesus, both Matthew’s version and Luke’s, are pious fiction. Nazareth did not exist in the 1st century AD – the area was a burial ground of rock-cut tombs.

    With multiple authors behind the original gospel story it is no surprise that the figure of “Jesus” is a mess of contradictions. Yet the story is so thinly drawn that being a “good Christian” might mean almost anything.

    The 12 disciples are as fictitious as their master, invented to legitimise the claims of the early churches. The original Mary was not a virgin, that idea was borrowed from pagan goddesses. The pagan world knew all about virgins getting pregnant by randy gods: The Mythical “Virgin Mother”.

    Scholars have known all this for more than 200 years but priestcraft is a highly profitable business and finances an industry of deceit to keep the show on the road.

    “Jesus better documented than any other ancient figure”? Don’t believe a word of it. Unlike the mythical Jesus, a real historical figure like Julius Caesar has a mass of mutually supporting evidence.

    The case for a mythical Jesus – Nailing Jesus. Book review: Ehrman – Did Jesus Exist? Popular scholar recoils from the abyss. A rescue mission for the “Jesus of history” – The New Apologists.

    –

    1. Kaas Avatar
      Kaas

      hahahahaha!!!!!!
      Gee die spul wit gepleisterde grafte gas ou Matt

      1. Einad Snetraam. Avatar
        Einad Snetraam.

        Presies jou sms’se aan my…..ou ( eks ) Kaas vd forums.

        1. VerkeerdeVoet Avatar
          VerkeerdeVoet

          Kaas is lankal bid verby. Net sy toiingrige senings het oorgebly.

          1. Gas Avatar
            Gas

            Soos geelbek wat sy lesings kry via sms’se van sy mentor Kaas.

          2. Gawie Avatar
            Gawie

            Daar slaan die die posboy duidelik deur.

    2. JAVR Avatar
      JAVR

      Ek sal bid dat ons “imaginary Friend” jou sal begenadig!

    3. Kalium_Chloraat Avatar
      Kalium_Chloraat

      Matt, jou kop raas alweer. As jou mediese fonds vir daai pilletjies uitgeput is, probeer die kliniek. Lekker droom oor die boot waaroor jy bevel gevoer het, maar onthou veral die boot se roeispane.

  17. Matt Heyns Avatar
    Matt Heyns

    I started to notice a sequence of parallels between the two texts, Although it’s been recognized by Christian scholars for centuries that the prophesies of Jesus appear to be fulfilled by what Josephus wrote about in the First Jewish-Roman war, I was seeing dozens more. What seems to have eluded many scholars is that the sequence of events and locations of Jesus ministry are more or less the same as the sequence of events and locations of the military campaign of [Emperor] Titus Flavius as described by Josephus. This is clear evidence of a deliberately constructed pattern. The biography of Jesus is actually constructed, tip to stern, on prior stories, but especially on the biography of a Roman Caesar.

    How could this go unnoticed in the most scrutinized books of all time? Many of the parallels are conceptual or poetic, so they aren’t all immediately obvious. After all, the authors did not want the average believer to see what they were doing, but they did want the alert reader to see it. An educated Roman in the ruling class would probably have recognized the literary game being played. We can demonstrate that the Roman Caesars left us a kind of puzzle literature that was meant to be solved by future generations, and the solution to that puzzle is ‘We invented Jesus Christ, and we’re proud of it.’”

    1. Kalium_Chloraat Avatar
      Kalium_Chloraat

      Matt jy het jou kop gestamp toe jy oor jou roeiboot se roeispane geval het.

      1. gawie maritz Avatar
        gawie maritz

        Kakium ou Matt ly aan skeurbuik.

        1. Einad Snetraam. Avatar
          Einad Snetraam.

          Lyk meer na een wat deur die Willy-fabriek was.

          1. Gawie Avatar
            Gawie

            Is hy nadat die Steriods hulle werk gedoen het, hoe dom van my.

        2. wit tjoklits Avatar
          wit tjoklits

          Gawie jou nuwe meisie? Wat is is haar naam nou weer? Linda of so iets

          1. Gawie Avatar
            Gawie

            Kan wees Willy en joune Mabelel Temba.

  18. Krygspraktisyn Avatar
    Krygspraktisyn

    Dit is hoekom ek so baie van Die Prediker hou.Daar is n goeie beskrywing van die dwaas. Weereens n ou gesegde ( Moet nie jou perels voor die varke werp nie ).

    1. Kalium_Chloraat Avatar
      Kalium_Chloraat

      In Spreuke staan daar dat dit beter is om ‘n beer wat van haar kleintjies ontneem is te ontmoet as ‘n dwaas in sy sotheid.

  19. Matt Heyns Avatar
    Matt Heyns

    Religious scriptures (including the Quran, Torah and Bible) are a Registry of Astronomical phenomena written in a Mythological format. The evolution of our modern Religious Concepts began with Astronomy, and evolved through Mythology and Astrology into modern religion. Many of the Hebrew Myth Concepts are traceable to Ancient Egypt and Mesopotamia. Jesus Christ, the Sun God, is a Cosmic Myth – on a par with Osiris, Horus, Samson, Adonis, Moses, Abraham, Solomon, Noah, Krishna, Mithra, Quetzalcoatl and many other solar Demigods. Evidence clearly shows that the 12 Apostles were symbols of Zodiac Signs, and that Jesus Christ symbolized a Sun God and in some aspects a Moon God. It is clear that the Tales within the bible are Allegorical depictions of the interactions between elements of the Cosmos.

    1. Kalium_Chloraat Avatar
      Kalium_Chloraat

      Haai Matt, ek sien jy’s ‘n bokryer en ‘n bootryer.

  20. Trippie Trip Avatar
    Trippie Trip

    ♥

    Hiermee sluit ek my deelname aan die berig af !

    ELKE KNIE SAL VOOR GOD BUIG !

    ♥

    1. Deon Brand Avatar
      Deon Brand

      Ek neem aan dis jou antieke god AMEN wat jy nog so getrou vereer?

    2. Gas Avatar
      Gas

      ♥ Verseker! ♥

    3. Matt Heyns Avatar
      Matt Heyns

      Jou god is die antieke Egiptiese god AMEN wat jy elke dag vereer.

      1. Riempies Avatar
        Riempies

        Matt drink nog n pilletjie jou dosis is nie reg nie.

  21. DOODLOOPSTRAAT Avatar
    DOODLOOPSTRAAT

    WAT KAN DAN NOU SO MOEILIK WEES HMMMM??

    SAGARIA 14:21

    En God spreek deur die profeet Sagaria. In daardie dag (met die wederkoms) sal daar geen KANAANIET in die huise van die Here meer wees nie.

    Dit smaak my Jesus bevestig hierdie profetiese uitspraak tot die letter.

    MATT 15:24

    En n Kaananiet het Jesus gesmeek om haar kind te genees wat van n bose gees besete was. Maar Jesus antwoord haar nie n woord nie – hy ignoreer haar.

    En Jesus se dissipels kom na hom en se Jaag die Kanaaniet weg want sy roep agter ons aan. Jesus se toe aan die Kanaaniet : Ek is net gestuur na die verlore skape van Israel wat in verstrooing is, nie vir julle Kananite nie (insluitende jou kind). Dit is nie mooi om die kos vir die honde te gooi nie (Kanaan = Canine = dog = hond)

  22. Matt Heyns Avatar
    Matt Heyns

    1. Christianity was invented as part of an ancient Roman psyops-ops campaign; the Roman Conspiracy to Invent Jesus. The Caesars committed a crime against consciousness. They reached into the minds of their subjects and planted false concepts to make them easier to control. I do not want to directly cause Christians any harm, but this is important for our culture. Alert citizens need to know the truth about our past so we can understand how and why governments create false histories and false gods. They often do it to obtain a social order that is against the best interests of the common people. Jewish sects in Palestine at the time, who were waiting for a prophesied warrior Messiah, were a constant source of violent insurrection during the first century. When the Romans had exhausted conventional means of quashing rebellion, they switched to psychological warfare. They surmised that the way to stop the spread of zealous Jewish missionary activity was to create a competing belief system. That’s when the ‘peaceful’ Messiah story was invented. Instead of inspiring warfare, this Messiah urged turn-the-other-cheek pacifism and encouraged Jews to ‘give unto Caesar’ and pay their taxes to Rome. Was Jesus based on a real person from history? “The short answer is no. In fact he may be the only fictional character in literature whose entire life story can be traced to other sources. Once those sources are all laid bare, there’s simply nothing left.

    2. Jesus was a failed Jewish revolutionary whose body was removed from its tomb by his disciples. I am not saying that, it is said by a Christian professor who has looked into the sources, the original sources, and found that he was a “failed Jewish revolutionary” and he had nothing to do with Christianity. Christianity is a fiction. Jesus had never even heard the name Christianity. It has been imposed on him, he was not the founder of Christianity. Who exactly was the founder of Christianity? One thing is certain, Jesus was not. He never thought about founding a religion, he was simply telling the Jews “I am your last prophet.” He died on the cross as a Jew. Then who founded Christianity? You can find Buddhism in the teachings of Gautam Buddha; he was the founder. You can find in the teachings of Mahavira that he was the founder of Jainism. You can find in the teachings of Lao Tzu that he was the founder of Taoism. But it is a very strange thing about Christianity: the founder had no idea at all, was not interested in creating a new religion.

    3. The man who founded it – you will not believe it – was the Emperor Constantine. The church knows it, but does not allow the public to know it. Emperor Constantine of Rome, who headed the Council of Nicea, died as a Christian, but he was baptized only on his deathbed. His whole life he was the high priest of the Sun God religion, which was why he changed the sabbath from Saturday, which was Jesus’ sabbath day, to Sunday. Jews still have their sabbath on Saturday, and Jesus also had lived his whole life believing in the sabbath on Saturday. How did it become Sunday? It was Constantine, who was a worshipper of the Sun God. Sunday represents the sun; the followers of the sun have always believed that Sunday is a holy day. It was Constantine who was actually the founder of Christianity. He was the decisive factor in the Council of Nicea. It was under his pressure – because he was the emperor of Rome – that the priests voted for the divine personality of Jesus. He made Jesus a divine person. It was his creation, his invention. He also changed Jesus’ birthday from January sixth to December twenty-fifth, the day of the solar rebirth. The twenty-fifth of December, which is celebrated all over the world, is not Jesus’ birthday. The whole idea of Christmas is bogus.

    4. Jesus was born on January sixth, but under Constantine’s influence and power, it was changed to December twenty-fifth, the day of the solar rebirth. It is thought by the sun worshippers that the sun was born on the twenty-fifth of December. The whole of Christianity is living in utter darkness. Their Christmas is bogus – and the church knows it perfectly well but won’t allow people to know about it. This is called defending the truth. I call it defending lies. Constantine saw Jesus as a failed messiah, with himself as the real messiah – and his view was ratified by the famous Christian bishop, Eusebius of Caesarea, who said, “It is as if the religion of Abraham is at last fulfilled, not in Jesus, but in Constantine.” Constantine imposed himself as the real last prophet for whom the Jews had been waiting.

    5. Of course, the Jews could not crucify the emperor of Rome. And the Christians wanted some royal support; otherwise they were being crucified everywhere. They found a shelter in Constantine, but it was a bargain, purely business. They accepted that Jesus was a failed messiah, and that Constantine was the real messiah. But this is not told to the public! Christians are not aware of it. All these scriptures are hidden under the Vatican. I say unto you that Christianity is one of the most untruthful religions in the world. It is a disease, a sickness, a pathology, a poison. It has not been helpful to humanity in finding the truth in any sense. It has been trying to propagate lies so continuously that they have almost become truth.

  23. Matt Heyns Avatar
    Matt Heyns

    Those who chronicled the life and acts of ‘Jesus’ found it advisable to metamorphose
    him into a solar deity. The historical Jesus was forgotten. Nearly all the salient
    incidents recorded in the four Gospels have their correlations in the
    movements, phases, or functions of the heavenly bodies. In the third century,
    when the church fathers were consolidating the Christian church, they had no
    knowledge of the date of Jesus’ birth. They chose the date celebrated by the
    pagans, the winter solstice, when the darkest days give way to the promise of
    brighter ones. This was incorporated in terms of the zodiac into the story of
    the birth of Jesus, or the sun. In the late hour of the twenty-fourth of
    December, the zodiacal sign Virgo, or the Virgin, rests on the horizon or
    ascendant. At the hour of midnight, the sun enters the sign of Capricorn — the
    manger and the goat. Thus is the sun — Jesus — born of a virgin by an
    immaculate conception?

  24. Matt Heyns Avatar
    Matt Heyns

    A Bible/Venus is a collection of pieces of literature; each representative of sometime
    within which that piece of the legend developed. Viewed in this fashion one is able to
    construct a totally logical story of just how a rather insignificant “faith
    healer” of his day gradually evolved into the supreme religious symbol for
    roughly 2 billion people. This story needs to be told, and told and told again,
    in order to combat the disinformation that is inherent in the beliefs of
    Christians about “the Christ”. Otherwise, the real truth about Jesus will be
    buried underneath the legend which was cast into stone centuries after his
    death. The story of Jonah (Semitic for Sun) is about a man who is swallowed by
    a whale (death) and remains in its belly for three days at which time the man
    is freed (resurrection). This story is another symbolic of the astrological
    account of how the Sun remains still for three days during the winter equinox.
    It is also symbolic of the resurrection of “the Christ” in your view..

  25. Matt Heyns Avatar
    Matt Heyns

    Rieme: Kom ons kyk hoe jou Bybel/Venus gemaak is deur die Christene. Christians had a different set of questions than the Dead Sea sect, and so they found different texts to cite. Any texts that refer to a time of a future deliverance, or the coming of a future king, were fair game. So the suffering servant of Isaiah 53 becomes the suffering Jesus of the gospels. And Luke’s quotation from Isaiah 61 becomes a reference to Jesus’s ministry of healing and reconciliation. Yet in every case the Christian reading comes after the fact. That is, they first believed in Jesus and then tried to find his life in Scripture. They then could shape their telling of stories about his life to fit the scriptures. This process may seem very circular, but given their assumptions that Jesus is central to God’s plan, that God spoke through prophets who might not understand their own words, and that the Bible was a cryptic puzzle needing solving, this belief in prophecy and fulfillment is not incomprehensible. So Luke can have Jesus say: Today this Scripture is fulfilled in your presence! Jesus saw himself as the deliverer that the prophets had foreseen long before. When his followers drew the same conclusion, they could then retain the ancient Scriptures, transforming them into something new, a Christian Bible/Venus.

    1. Gas Avatar
      Gas

      Matt droog nou op. Jy gaan nou net soos geelbek en frikkie tekere.

      1. Einad Snetraam. Avatar
        Einad Snetraam.

        Go Matt Go!! Ons dik geluk posman soek n gap !

        1. Gas Avatar
          Gas

          Matt kots op geelbek. Hy is gewoond aan dit !

  26. Matt Heyns Avatar
    Matt Heyns

    In trying to make sense out of what Jesus said, Christians have interpreted this visitation by the “Son of Man” as the “Second Coming” of Jesus Christ. But there is a major problem with this belief – Jesus didn’t show up within the time span he predicted. Christians have tried to get around this problem by claiming that Jesus would come sometime in the future, but this is clearly illogical. Jesus was very precise that the “Son of Man” would come within forty years from his ministry. So who was the “Son of Man” that Jesus predicted and Christians have worshipped for 2,000 years? The true name of “the Christ” (the Messiah) – is Titus Flavius.

  27. Matt Heyns Avatar
    Matt Heyns

    As the antiquity era was approaching an end, and as the hieroglyphic and the cuneiform writings were getting extinct, the Hebrews simply stole the Egyptian and the Sumerian thunder. The Hebrew scribes, whom I presume knew what they were doing, copycatted the famous myths/epics of ancient Egypt and Sumer, in what could be the world’s first and yet the biggest copyright infringement, and stuffed their Bible with them.

  28. Matt Heyns Avatar
    Matt Heyns

    Meeste Afrikaners word doelbewust om die bos gelei om vir produkte von ‘n engele fabriek se leefstyl te betaal. In hierdie proses lieg hulle asof dit gedruk staan. Kom ons maak nader kennis met hierdie skandelike misleiding op veral SON dae as lidmate aangespoor word om hulle sondes af te koop.

    The relationship with gods/god has always been one of man’s oldest preoccupations, and still is till this very day. And while it’s fair to assume that Modern day man owes his advancement in philosophy and science to ancient Greece and its earliest thinkers, it’s equally fair, when it comes to the development of religion and the evolution of religious thinking, to give credence to the ancient civilizations of Egypt and Mesopotamia.

    In fact, the earliest vestiges of human faith in a god, as we know it today, are to be traced back to the valley of the river Nile and between the rivers Euphrates and Tigris. We’re surely to find the root of our belief in a supreme creator inscribed, in hieroglyphs and cuneiform, on the pyramids and papyri of ancient Egypt and on the clay tablets of Sumer … And not within the confines of the Hebrew Bible, as many still believe.

    And if we still cherish the Greek school of wisdom and science and continue to build on the teachings of Socrates, Plato, Aristotle and Pythagoras, I wonder why we stopped honoring the ancient gods of Egypt and Sumer and Babylon.

    What has become of the mighty gods of the ancient Near East? What happened to Anu and Enlil, what has become of the beautiful Goddess “Inanna” Ishtar … The one god, Aten, and what happened to the omnipotent Amun/aMEN of Thebes? … Amen, whose name is still echoing in every house of prayers of all organized religions on earth?

    How come we fail to recall any of the magnificent epics of SumerIa (watch video of the epic of Gilgamesh) or the amazing mythology of Egypt (watch video of the Egyptian creation myth) whereas our kids know the stories of the Hebrew Bible by heart?

    But then again, if our kids are to be introduced to the myths of ancient Egypt and the epics of Sumeria (watch video of the Sumerian creation myth) they won’t feel like they are in a strange land. The stories of Sumer and Egypt will sound so familiar.

    A lot of the stories in the Old Testament are in fact plagiarized material, particularly from the rich mythical heritage of the Sumerians – the inventors of writing. The story of Noah and the flood story, the creation of man out of clay, Cain and Abel, the gardens of Eden, the tree of knowledge, creation of Eve from Adams rib, and numerous other myths, like the throwing of Moses after he was born in the river, are all but stories found recorded on Sumerian clay tablets dating 5000 years back in time.

    This has long been common knowledge amongst the scholars of history, archeology and anthropology, but I find it extremely necessary today, in the so called information age, to drag it out of the academic realm and expose it in the open before the public eyes

  29. Vrolik Witbooi Avatar
    Vrolik Witbooi

    Ag nee jinne man. Gaan djille my nou ook dood spuit PRAAC ? Ek neem aan negotiations is buite die kwessie ?

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    Vrolik Witbooi

    Wat het ekkenou vekeerd gedoen my kroon ? Dit was mos ma net `n onskullige comment wa ek gemaak het in verband met die onbenullige en partydige godsdiens monster uitgevoer deur `n domini wat skuil in `n wit jas!

    Nou kykie, djille moet lekka wies ! Vesta dzy ? Niemand het gevrek nie, ons Afferkaners kuier net op hierie public forum en wissel idees. Niemand brand vlae nie.

    Nou vra ek wee – met alle respek, is hierie ‘power prayer’ nie ma die selle as `n vinnige teug van oupa se snuif blikke nie ? Siende dat ons godsdiens mense nou met wetenskap doenig is kan ek die vraag seker tereg vra of hoe ?

    Bly ok ma `n netelige kwessie vir my, die ding dat die Almighty toe nou besluit het om alle piete in Suid Afrika as Calviniste die lig te laat sien maar alle ibrahims innie woestyn is Moslems – no options. En as dzy in Italia gebore word dan is dit pous. En pasta met die res !

  31. Vrolik Witbooi Avatar
    Vrolik Witbooi

    Wat het ekkenou vekeerd gedoen my kroon ? Dit was mos ma net `n onskullige comment wa ek gemaak het in verband met die onbenullige en partydige dodsdiens monster uitgevoer deur `n domini wat skuil in `n wit jas!

    Nou kykie, djille moet lekka wies ! Vesta dzy ? Niemand het gevrek nie, ons Afferkaners kuier net op hierie public forum en wissel idees. Niemand brand vlae nie.

    Nou vra ek wee – met alle respek, is hierie ‘power prayer’ nie ma die selle as `n vinnige teug van oupa se snuif blikke nie ? Siende dat ons godsdiens mense nou met wetenskap doenig is kan ek die vraag seker tereg vra of hoe ?

    Bly ok ma `n netelige kwessie vir my, die ding dat die Almighty toe nou besluit het om alle piete in Suid Afrika as Calviniste die lig te laat sien maar alle ibrahims innie woestyn is Moslems – no options. En as dzy in Italia gebore word dan is dit pous. En pasta met die res !

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    Yahweh-volgeling

    Matt, jy is slinks – jy verklaar dat jy nog nooit ‘n bokryer was nie, maar weier om te verklaar dat jy nie ‘n vrymesselaar is nie. Jy sien die goed wat jy kwytraak oor Jesus en die Bybel is die goed wat hul mense leer om te gradueer na Master Mason (derde graad). Hoe weet ek? ‘n Voormalige kennis – ‘n mason – het my vertel na hy so 3 glase wyn te veel ingehad het. Het my ook van die boeke van Albert Pike ensomeer gewys. Jy sien die jode wie vrymesselary gestig het en steeds beheer, beheer besigheid en wereld politiek deur ‘n geheime klub waaraan regters, polisiemense, politici, en sleutelposisie mense van alle rasse en gelowe wat aan ‘n god of soos hul dit stel, Great Architect of the Universe, glo kan behoort. Dan begin die breinspoeling dat godsdiens deur mense geskep is om die dom massas te beheer, totdat hulle in hoe grade (tot 33stegraad) verlig word dat Yabulon of lees Lucifer eintlik die god van vrymesselary is. Is jy nog deels in die duister or die dinge – nog nie hoog op genoeg nie?

    1. Johann de Waal Avatar
      Johann de Waal

      Ek wil hê dat julle mense moet begin om julle werklike name te gebruik; jy, Yahweh-volgeling, en Matt Heyns en al die ander. Koppel julle plasings hier aan julle Facebook profiele, soos ek gedoen het.

      Na ‘n ruk raak ‘n mens werklik sat vir almal wat so twak praat van agter ‘n gordyn van anonimiteit. (Skoppensboer uitgesluit, moet ek byvoeg, om rede dat hy sy werk kwyt sal wees.)

  33. Yahweh-volgeling Avatar
    Yahweh-volgeling

    Goed om te hoor Matt.

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