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VSA, Hezbollah hou geheime gesprekke

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Die VSA en Hezbollah hou in die geheim indirekte gesprekke wat deur Londen gefasiliteer word oor beheer van die stryd teen Al-Qaeda, stabiliteit in die streek en ander Libanese politieke kwessies.

Senior Britse diplomatieke bronne, aangehaal in ‘n Koeweitse koerant Al- Rai verlede week, beweer Britse diplomate hou samesprekings met die leiers van die Libanese organisasie en is in besig met die oordrag van die inligting aan die Amerikaners.

Die gesprekke is daarop gemik om die veranderinge in die streek en die wêreld te bespreek, en voor te berei vir die komende terugkeer van Iran na die internasionale gemeenskap, volgens diplomatieke bronne in Washington.

Omdat die VSA , in teenstelling met die Verenigde Koninkryk, beide die politieke en militêre vleuels van Hezbollah as ‘n terroriste-organisasie beskou en weier om te onderskei tussen hulle, kan die Amerikaanse amptenare nie wettig ontmoet met enige lid van die party nie. Maar volgens die bronne, is die VSA bereid om die standpunte van die party aan te hoor wat kan lei tot ‘n direkte verhouding in die toekoms.

Betrekkinge tussen Brittanje en Iran het versleg ná Iraniërs die Britse ambassade in Teheran in November 2011 bestorm het. Maar in Oktober, het Brittanje en Iran besluit om diplomatieke betrekkinge te herstel, en Brittanje het daarna ‘n nuwe chargé d’affaires na Iran gestuur.

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19 responses to “VSA, Hezbollah hou geheime gesprekke”

  1. Etienne Prinsloo Avatar
    Etienne Prinsloo

    Brittanje het net nog ‘n lakei van Radikale Islam geword, deels agv hulle bevolkingsdemografie en deels vanwee die liberale breinspoeling dat Islam net verkeerd verstaan word. Daarmee saam die huidige Amerikaanse en Europese omhelsing van Shi’ite Islam in Iran. Obama en die Demokrate het hul rug op al Amerika se bestaande Sunni bondgenote gekeer. Die versoeking van vinnige besigheidsgeleenthede troef die langtermyn skade aan hul invloedsfeer en nasionale sekuriteit. Brittanje het, met die vrylating van die Lockerbie bomplanter in ruil vir wapenverkope aan Libie gewys waar liberale Europa staan met beginsels om kort daarna met ‘n 180 grade omkeer militer teen Ghadaffi op te tree en Libie in anargie te dompel. Dit is hierdie mentaliteit wat SA met sanksies en gevynsde morele vernietig het en aan die ANC godstatus toegeken het. Die onvermydelike gevolgtrekking is dat die blanke Westerse beskawing besig is om ineen te stort. America has gone from it’s founding to total decay without an intermediate period of civilization. Soos die Romeinse en al die ander beskawings geval het, staan ons in die skemer van ons Westerse beskawing. The barbarians are not at the gates, we imported and surrendered to the to destroy us from within.

  2. Willem Delport Avatar
    Willem Delport

    Michael Lofgren, a former defense budget analyst on Capitol Hill for more than thirty years, declared that the neoconservatives are kind of like the terminator, they just don’t die. You would think they would be so discredited they would be shamed, but they have no shame.

    It is the same thing with Benjamin Netanyahu. You would think that he would be a little cautious with his political maneuvering, but he is not. He has been an interesting fellow since the time he ascended to the Zionist throne in Israel.

    The man not only has no shame but he perpetuates the same Zionist lies virtually every week now. Recently, he summoned the Hanukkah slogan and said that “we have come to expel the darkness,” and

    “The darkness that threatens the world the most today is the darkness of a nuclear Iran. We are obligated to do everything possible to prevent that darkness. If possible, it is preferable to do this through diplomatic channels, and if not we will act as light unto the nations.” Hy lieg natuurlik net soos ons predikante wat ‘n mens met ‘n hel afdreig.

  3. Johann du Toit Avatar
    Johann du Toit

    Hollande is preparing to visit Israel, so to give himself maximum credibility when he is there, he plays the Netanyahu Iran threat card and blocks the first attempt at a P5+1 interim agreement with Iran.

    On his return to France, and deciding that he really should not offend President Obama too much, Hollande unblocks and says okay to the P5+I interim agreement.

    Then he gets a message from Netanyahu to the effect: “What the hell are you doing? I thought you were backing my line to the hilt!”

    Hollande then says to himself, and perhaps one or two of his advisers, “What can I do to appease Netanyahu’s anger at my game play?”

    Answer: “Kill this story that Arafat was very probably poisoned with polonium provided by Israel and adm

  4. Matt Heyns Avatar
    Matt Heyns

    What Netanyahu implicitly ended up saying was that he agreed with the Viennese Jew Solomon Ehrmann who envisioned a future in which all of mankind will have been jewified and joined in union with the B’nai B’rith. When that happens, not only the B’nai B’rith but all of Judaism will have fulfilled its task.

    This Talmudic ideology has been echoed over the centuries in many different ways. For example, an unnamed Jewish man of Frankfurt noted in 1858:

    Rome, which 1800 years ago, ground the Jews under its feet, will fall, ruined. The work of the Jews will spread its light over the universe and will bring the greatest advantage to the human species.

    Baruch Levy, one of Karl Marx’s correspondents, had propounded similar views. Levy wrote:

    The Jewish people taken collectively shall be its own Messias…In this new organization of humanity, the sons of Israel now scattered over the whole surface of the globe…shall everywhere become the ruling element without opposition…

    The governments of the nations forming the Universal or World-Republic shall all thus pass, without any effort, into Jewish hands thanks to the victory of the proletariat…Thus shall the promise of the Talmud be fulfilled: when the Messianic epoch shall have arrived, the jews will control the wealth of all the nations of the earth.

  5. Matt Heyns Avatar
    Matt Heyns

    Recent events simply show that Netanyahu has no interest in diplomatic channels, and he already declared that a deal with Iran is a historical mistake. So what does Netanyahu mean by the phrase that Zionists like himself should be light unto the nations?

    It surely means that Netanyahu will have to dismiss Western values, particularly when it comes to dealing with perceived enemies such as Iran. He certainly got this idea from rabbi Manis Friedman, who postulated back in 2009:

    I don’t believe in Western morality. Living by Torah [the Talmud, of course] values will make us a light unto the nations who suffer defeat because of a disastrous morality of human invention.

    Since “Western morality” is out of the equation, then Talmudic morality has to be substituted, which is to say that death on a massive scale will continue to ensue in the Middle East. The great and wise Rabbi Manis continued:

    The only way to fight a moral war is the Jewish way: Destroy their holy sites. Kill men, women and children (and cattle).

    Holy sites and precious lives are indeed being destroyed virtually everyday in the Middle East.

  6. Matt Heyns Avatar
    Matt Heyns

    Die Saudis dreig om Iran alleen te pak. Inderdaad ‘n mal spul. Considering Saudi Arabia is nothing more than an oil corporation for the global elite with imported wage slaves supporting its agenda, it simply has no sustainability in the long run.

    As the population of Saudi Arabia grows over the decades and the general populations of the Middle East continue to grow forwards, the pressures will continue to rise in an absence of a real vision buttressed by a leadership vacuum that only sees greedy elite anti-humans running around in $ 5000 outfits who pretend to be leaders of a once long gone tribe. It’s silly and they know it.

    Because the monetary economic system is such a driver of human behavior, they conveniently ignore their human instincts to feed that beast with bad results. Oh, they will try reform but it won’t work because they are just band-aids on an antiquated ideology that no longer meets the real human needs of all of us.

    So yeah, Saudi Arabian rulers will eventually make an effort but it’s NOT expected to reform fast enough to satisfy the needs of the real peoples because greed will trump humanity in a world where a Rolls Royce is more valuable than a Pakistani wage slave.

  7. Matt Heyns Avatar
    Matt Heyns

    Israel het 400 Nukes en Iran 0. As sanksies teen Iran suksesvol is, en hierdie land swaar straf, hoekom nie sanksies teen Israel in stel nie? Israel is ‘n baie groter bedreiging vir vrede in die Midde Ooste as Iran. Die VSA begin blykbaar in hierdie rigting beweeg. Gevaarlik vir Pres Obama om dit sag te stel.

    1. Riempies Avatar
      Riempies

      Die bedreiging vir vrede in die midde ooste het net een oorsprong en dit is die Geldmag/NWO wat destabilisasie op n hellevaart deur die geinfiltreerde nog-net-in-naam-Amerika veroorsaak word. Orde soos dit was in
      die hele Afrika kontinent is deur die Illuminati/geldmag/NWO vernietig
      insamewerking met Sjina en blanke selfmoord inisiatiewe. Die Afrika kontinent
      gaan een van die veiligste plekke op aarde word vorentoe.

    2. Puma0163 Avatar
      Puma0163

      Islam is die gevaar vir die hele wêreld. Jy kan in elk geval nie Iran vertrou met ‘n pakkie vuurwerke nie!

      1. Matt Heyns Avatar
        Matt Heyns

        Die heidense tempels (kerke/geboue/circe) en hulle produkte van engele fabrieke (snoeshane/predikante) is net so ‘n groot gevaar as Islam en die Zioniste.

      2. Matt Heyns Avatar
        Matt Heyns

        Recent events simply show that Netanyahu has no interest in diplomatic channels, and he already declared that a deal with Iran is “a historical mistake.” So what does Netanyahu mean by the phrase that Zionists like himself should be “light unto the nations”?

        It surely means that Netanyahu will have to dismiss Western values, particularly when it comes to dealing with perceived enemies such as Iran. He certainly got this idea from rabbi Manis Friedman, who postulated back in 2009:

        “I don’t believe in Western morality. Living by Torah [the Talmud, of course] values will make us a light unto the nations who suffer defeat because of a disastrous morality of human invention.”

        Since “Western morality” is out of the equation, then Talmudic morality has to be substituted, which is to say that death on a massive scale will continue to ensue in the Middle East. The great and wise Rabbi Manis continued:

        “The only way to fight a moral war is the Jewish way: Destroy their holy sites. Kill men, women and children (and cattle).”

        Holy sites and precious lives are indeed being destroyed virtually everyday in the Middle East.

    3. Etienne Prinsloo Avatar
      Etienne Prinsloo

      Nog ‘n closet moslem. Interessant hoeveel blanke Afrikaners skielik onder die Obama/ Islam invloed verval het. Deur Islam te verheerlik en Israel te veroordeel voel hulle tuis in die koor van liberale waar hulle skielik ‘n identiteit het.

      1. Sean Wainwright Avatar
        Sean Wainwright

        Israel, a terrorist,
        illegitimate state from day one, a constant threat to world peace, a nuclear
        power that is a threat to its safety and that of the world including the US is
        the last country that can talk about the rights of other countries to have
        nuclear technology even nuclear weapons.

  8. Eric Bornman Avatar
    Eric Bornman

    die moslem in die withuis praat met die gewapende (deur die CIA) moslems oor die gemors wat hulle aangevang het in die wereld en hoe om dit reg te stel met ander lande se geld.
    M.B.T. Iran, die mossies mag n verdrag teken en dit verbreek wanner dit hulle pas….

  9. Einad Snetraam. Avatar
    Einad Snetraam.

    Lyk soos n peleton “Arkan’s”.

  10. Sean Wainwright Avatar
    Sean Wainwright

    Israel alone and through its allies, agents, loyalists and Israeli Firster’s within the US administration, certainly in Congress have failed to scuttle the negotiations, Bibi Netanyahu have not given up yet. Bibi and Israel wants to decapitate Iran and its nuclear program demanding Iran to give up completely its nuclear program even if it is a peaceful one. Bibi Netanyahu army of loyalists simply could scuttle the next deal.

    Israel perhaps the third or fourth most powerful nuclear country after the US, and Russia perhaps China, was helped in its nuclear program by the hypocritical west with countries like the US, France and Norway supplying the material and the know how to Israel to produce hundreds of nuclear bombs and no thanks to countries like the US, Germany, and Russia have the means to deliver its bombs as far as New York, Moscow or Chicago, Tehran even Mecca.

    For many years, Israel through its surrogate the US have labeled Iran as a “rogue state” and as a nation outside the “community of nations” as if Israel with all of its nuclear bombs and its solid indisputable history of terrorism is not a rogue state and is within the “community of nations”.

    Arabs Gulf countries which have suffered from and paid hundreds of billions in the costs of wars over the last three decades should be wise enough to understand that the best thing for them is cooperation with Iran not confrontation, certainly not inciting and giving legitimacy to Israel attack on Iran.

  11. Ben du Toit Avatar
    Ben du Toit

    We are left with two competing explanations: either Al-Qaeda is extremely smarter than the neo-Bolsheviks and the entire Zionist kingdom, including the NSA and the Israeli regime, or terrorism is largely a Zionist invention.

  12. Fred Dougerty Avatar
    Fred Dougerty

    I don’t think there’ll be war (with Iran) because that has always been a bluff by Netanyahu. We know that most of his military and intelligence people are against it, unless they could somehow bring America in. But one can never rule out the possibility of an Israeli false flag operation, something dreadful that they would seek to blame on Iran. I’m not predicting it. I don’t think it’s likely. But I’m afraid you can’t rule out anything. Because it is now a desperate game for Zionism. Because (the Iran nuclear agreement) would mark the first-ever really big defeat for the Zionist lobby. And as I said, it would free up Obama to be serious about Israel-Palestine.”

  13. Albert Speer Avatar
    Albert Speer

    Israel, a terrorist,
    illegitimate state from day one, a constant threat to world peace, a nuclear
    power that is a threat to its safety and that of the world including the US is
    the last country that can talk about the rights of other countries to have
    nuclear technology even nuclear weapons.

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